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Kuch ulama kehtay hein k islamic banking jayiz hei. Us mein Interest nahi hota aur kuch ulama kehtay hein k yeh jayiz nahi. Mufti Taqi Usmani from pakistan Darul_uloom_ karachi unka fatwa hei k islamic banking jayiz hei. Mera sawal hei kya yeh jayiz hei ya nahi?
 

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aslam O Alaikum Bhai,
Thanks For Asking A Question.
Actually Bhai Mein Koi Alim Ya Mufti Tu Nahi But Iss Forum Ka Aik Member Aur Islam Section Ka Moderator Hone Ki Wajah Say App Sab Ko Answer Daina Parta Hai Aur Woh Bhi Hawala Ke Sath Apni Taraf Say Nahi.
Abb Meri Baat Ghor Say Sunain.
App Ne Jinn Mufti Sahib Ka Name Liya Taqi Usmani Yeh Woh Insaan Hai Jiss Ne Apni Book Mein Likha Hai Ke '' Peeshab Say Quran Likhna Jaiz Hai '' Astagfirullah..... Aghar App Ko Uss Book Ka Title Aur Scan Page Cahiye Tu Woh Bhi Mein App Ko Abhi Dai Sakta Hon.
So Aise Insaan Ki Kahi Hoi Koi Baat Mat Suniye.
But App Ka Question Mujhe Samajh Mein Nahi Aya Ke Islamic Banking ? Yani Bank Mein Paisa Jama Karwana Or Uss Mein Job Karna ? Please Zara Clear Kar Dain.
 

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aslam O Alaikum Bhai,
Thanks For Asking A Question.
Actually Bhai Mein Koi Alim Ya Mufti Tu Nahi But Iss Forum Ka Aik Member Aur Islam Section Ka Moderator Hone Ki Wajah Say App Sab Ko Answer Daina Parta Hai Aur Woh Bhi Hawala Ke Sath Apni Taraf Say Nahi.
Abb Meri Baat Ghor Say Sunain.
App Ne Jinn Mufti Sahib Ka Name Liya Taqi Usmani Yeh Woh Insaan Hai Jiss Ne Apni Book Mein Likha Hai Ke '' Peeshab Say Quran Likhna Jaiz Hai '' Astagfirullah..... Aghar App Ko Uss Book Ka Title Aur Scan Page Cahiye Tu Woh Bhi Mein App Ko Abhi Dai Sakta Hon.
So Aise Insaan Ki Kahi Hoi Koi Baat Mat Suniye.
But App Ka Question Mujhe Samajh Mein Nahi Aya Ke Islamic Banking ? Yani Bank Mein Paisa Jama Karwana Or Uss Mein Job Karna ? Please Zara Clear Kar Dain.
First of all aap ne jo kuch musfti saheb k baray mein kaha Woh galat hei. Bura mat manay ga yeh batien un k baray mein ya tu Brelvi ya phir Ahle Sunnat k log kehtay hein. Kher her insaan ka apna apna aqeeda hota hei. plz Agar aap mujhe is book ka title bata dein jis mein mufti saheb ne aesaa kaha hei tu mere liye bohat acha hoga. Mera queston he k bank mein job kerna islamic bank mein. Jesay Al-Meezan bank hei pak mein. Aur isi tarah standard sharter hei in k islamic shobay mein job kerna theek hei ya galat.
 

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aslam O Alaikum Bhai,
Thanks For Asking A Question.
Actually Bhai Mein Koi Alim Ya Mufti Tu Nahi But Iss Forum Ka Aik Member Aur Islam Section Ka Moderator Hone Ki Wajah Say App Sab Ko Answer Daina Parta Hai Aur Woh Bhi Hawala Ke Sath Apni Taraf Say Nahi.
Abb Meri Baat Ghor Say Sunain.
App Ne Jinn Mufti Sahib Ka Name Liya Taqi Usmani Yeh Woh Insaan Hai Jiss Ne Apni Book Mein Likha Hai Ke '' Peeshab Say Quran Likhna Jaiz Hai '' Astagfirullah..... Aghar App Ko Uss Book Ka Title Aur Scan Page Cahiye Tu Woh Bhi Mein App Ko Abhi Dai Sakta Hon.
So Aise Insaan Ki Kahi Hoi Koi Baat Mat Suniye.
But App Ka Question Mujhe Samajh Mein Nahi Aya Ke Islamic Banking ? Yani Bank Mein Paisa Jama Karwana Or Uss Mein Job Karna ? Please Zara Clear Kar Dain.
yaar ahmed bhai ne sirf example di thi...uske bare mei discuss karne ko nhi kaha tha..nd ap ho ke unko badnaam kar rahe hoo....nd mujhe tu pata bhi nhi yeh kon se mufti sahab hai..:$...but styll...u dun have ny right to say like dat...well sorry if u mind it..but i had to say it..sorry:$...
 

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hmmm.... well ..... i really dun know about that mufti...
but MIdtown mein cahta hon k aap jald say jaal apnai baat ka reference dein.... and i will do further research on that mufti... and let you guyz know ..
 

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First of all aap ne jo kuch musfti saheb k baray mein kaha Woh galat hei. Bura mat manay ga yeh batien un k baray mein ya tu Brelvi ya phir Ahle Sunnat k log kehtay hein. Kher her insaan ka apna apna aqeeda hota hei. plz Agar aap mujhe is book ka title bata dein jis mein mufti saheb ne aesaa kaha hei tu mere liye bohat acha hoga. Mera queston he k bank mein job kerna islamic bank mein. Jesay Al-Meezan bank hei pak mein. Aur isi tarah standard sharter hei in k islamic shobay mein job kerna theek hei ya galat.
WAH JI WAH MERAY BHAI MERAY DOST AHMAD SAHIB MUJHE YEH SUN KAR BUHAT DUKH HOWA YAAR HUM BARELVION KO UNN KE SATH KOI ZATTI DUSHMANI NAHI WHO HANAFI HAIN BUT JINN CHEZON PER EKHTALAFAT HAIN AUR JO EKHTLAF KI ASAL WAJAH HAIN WOH HAIN ULAMA-E-DEOBAND KI KUFRIA IBARAT AGHAR APP KO CAHIYE TU MEIN HAWALA KE SATH APP KO DAY SAKTA HON YAHAN ISS LIYE POST NAHI KARON GA KE FORUM KA MAHOOL KHARAB HOO GA.
ABB AGHAR KOI YEH KAHE KE ALLAH JHOOT BOL SAKTA HAI JAISA KE ULAMA-E-DEOBAND NE APNI BOOKS MEIN KAHA KE ALLAH SAY IMKAN-E-KIZB HAI YANI ALLAH JHOOT BOL SAKTA HAI TU KIA APP PHIR BHI YAHI KAHAIN GAI KE UNN KE KHILAF KUCH MAT KAHO ? BHAI BARELVI/DEOBANDI EKHTLAF AJJ BHI KHATAM HOO SAKTY HAIN AGHAR ULAMA-E-DEOBAND APNE BAZURGON KI KUFRIYA IBARAT SAY TAUBA KAR KE UNN KI BOOKS KO JALA DALAIN BUT UNHON NE AJJ SAY 50 YEARS PEHLAY NAHI KIA ABB KIA KARAIN GAI.
BHAI APP NE YEH KAISY SOCH LIA KE MEIN TAQI USMANI SAHIB PER ILZAAM LAGA RAHA HON MERAY DOST YEH LOO PROVE






KIA ABB BHI KOI SHAKH KI BAAT HAI ?
 

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BHAI AGHAR ISS BOOK KE PAGE SAY BHI APP KO YAKEEN NAHI AYA TU YEH LAIN DEOBAND KA NEWSPAPER KA PAGE.

 

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WAH JI WAH MERAY BHAI MERAY DOST AHMAD SAHIB MUJHE YEH SUN KAR BUHAT DUKH HOWA YAAR HUM BARELVION KO UNN KE SATH KOI ZATTI DUSHMANI NAHI WHO HANAFI HAIN BUT JINN CHEZON PER EKHTALAFAT HAIN AUR JO EKHTLAF KI ASAL WAJAH HAIN WOH HAIN ULAMA-E-DEOBAND KI KUFRIA IBARAT AGHAR APP KO CAHIYE TU MEIN HAWALA KE SATH APP KO DAY SAKTA HON YAHAN ISS LIYE POST NAHI KARON GA KE FORUM KA MAHOOL KHARAB HOO GA.
ABB AGHAR KOI YEH KAHE KE ALLAH JHOOT BOL SAKTA HAI JAISA KE ULAMA-E-DEOBAND NE APNI BOOKS MEIN KAHA KE ALLAH SAY IMKAN-E-KIZB HAI YANI ALLAH JHOOT BOL SAKTA HAI TU KIA APP PHIR BHI YAHI KAHAIN GAI KE UNN KE KHILAF KUCH MAT KAHO ? BHAI BARELVI/DEOBANDI EKHTLAF AJJ BHI KHATAM HOO SAKTY HAIN AGHAR ULAMA-E-DEOBAND APNE BAZURGON KI KUFRIYA IBARAT SAY TAUBA KAR KE UNN KI BOOKS KO JALA DALAIN BUT UNHON NE AJJ SAY 50 YEARS PEHLAY NAHI KIA ABB KIA KARAIN GAI.
BHAI APP NE YEH KAISY SOCH LIA KE MEIN TAQI USMANI SAHIB PER ILZAAM LAGA RAHA HON MERAY DOST YEH LOO PROVE






KIA ABB BHI KOI SHAKH KI BAAT HAI ?
Haan aap ne shaed gor se nahi parha unoh ne kaha bator-e-elaj aesa kerna jayiz hei agar aap ko yaqeen hei k aap is se theek hu saktay hu tu jayiz hei.Aur saath hi unoh ne bhi likha hei zaroorat k waqt aesa kerna theek hei. Aur mery bhi koi bralvion se koi zati dushmani nahi hei. Mujhe yaqeen hei k na aap mery baat se it-e-faakh aur na mein aap ki baat se. Kyon k mere nazdeeg jo baat muft saheb ne jayiz kahi hei woh sirf majboori ke waqt mein. Itna mujhe maloom hei k poora pakistan except bralvion k aur sahed dawat-e-islami k sab mufti saheb k fatwon se kaam chalatay hein. Aur yehi nahi agar deoband galat hotay tu unka India mein Darul_uloom_deoband aur karachi mein Darul_uloom_karachi korangi itna ziadda popular nahi hotay. Lakin kher hum yahan deobandi aur bralvi k mauzon per baat tu kernay nahi aaye hein. So, is liye aap k nazdeeg aap theek aur mere nazdeeg mein theek. Aur haan plz next time kam se kam forum mein mufti saheb k baray mein galat alfaz mat ist-e-mal karay ga. Kyon k yehi mufti saheb mere abu k ustad hein. Plz yeh mery aap se guzarish hei. thanks
Aur kyon k mein deobandi hon isliye mere kiheal se aap k aur mere darmian kai jaga ikhtalafat hon gein. Isliye mein ab koshish karoon gan k beej mein na aaon.
 

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Haan aap ne shaed gor se nahi parha unoh ne kaha bator-e-elaj aesa kerna jayiz hei agar aap ko yaqeen hei k aap is se theek hu saktay hu tu jayiz hei.Aur saath hi unoh ne bhi likha hei zaroorat k waqt aesa kerna theek hei. Aur mery bhi koi bralvion se koi zati dushmani nahi hei. Mujhe yaqeen hei k na aap mery baat se it-e-faakh aur na mein aap ki baat se. Kyon k mere nazdeeg jo baat muft saheb ne jayiz kahi hei woh sirf majboori ke waqt mein. Itna mujhe maloom hei k poora pakistan except bralvion k aur sahed dawat-e-islami k sab mufti saheb k fatwon se kaam chalatay hein. Aur yehi nahi agar deoband galat hotay tu unka India mein Darul_uloom_deoband aur karachi mein Darul_uloom_karachi korangi itna ziadda popular nahi hotay. Lakin kher hum yahan deobandi aur bralvi k mauzon per baat tu kernay nahi aaye hein. So, is liye aap k nazdeeg aap theek aur mere nazdeeg mein theek. Aur haan plz next time kam se kam forum mein mufti saheb k baray mein galat alfaz mat ist-e-mal karay ga. Kyon k yehi mufti saheb mere abu k ustad hein. Plz yeh mery aap se guzarish hei. thanks
Aur kyon k mein deobandi hon isliye mere kiheal se aap k aur mere darmian kai jaga ikhtalafat hon gein. Isliye mein ab koshish karoon gan k beej mein na aaon.
SORRY AHMAD BHAI REPLY KARNE MEIN LATE HO GAYA BUT BUHAT AFSOS HOWA PAR KAR KE ELAAJ KE LIYE ITNE BURI HADH TAK GIR JANA :( ASTAGFIRULLAH MEIN TU AISE INSAAN KO MUFTI NAHI SAMAJHTA JO QURAN KI ISS TARHA TAUHEEN KARAI.
MUJHE YEH BATAIN KE WOH AISE KONSI BEMARI HAI JISS MEIN INSAAN ITNE BURI HADH TAK GIR KAR APNA IMAAN ZAYA KAR LAITA HAI ? ASTAGFIRULLAH QURAN KAHAN AUR PEESHAB KAHAN TAUBA TAUBA.
BHAI AMERICA AND IBLEES BUHAT POPULAR HAIN ISS KA YEH MATLAB NAHI KE WOH ACHAY HAIN {(moc)}
AUR RAHI BAAT EKHTALAFAT KI TU BHAI AISE INSAAN KA CHEHRA BAINAQAB KARNA MERA FARZ THA SO MEINE KIA AUR KARTA RAHON GA.
BAQI HUM YAHAN BARELVI/DEOBANDI EKHTALAFAT NAHI CHEERAIN GAI BUT APP PER TU SIR PEETNE KO JEE CAHTA HAI KE KIA BAAT KEH DI APP NE.
ALLAH MUAF FARMAI... AMEEN!
 

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SORRY AHMAD BHAI REPLY KARNE MEIN LATE HO GAYA BUT BUHAT AFSOS HOWA PAR KAR KE ELAAJ KE LIYE ITNE BURI HADH TAK GIR JANA :( ASTAGFIRULLAH MEIN TU AISE INSAAN KO MUFTI NAHI SAMAJHTA JO QURAN KI ISS TARHA TAUHEEN KARAI.
MUJHE YEH BATAIN KE WOH AISE KONSI BEMARI HAI JISS MEIN INSAAN ITNE BURI HADH TAK GIR KAR APNA IMAAN ZAYA KAR LAITA HAI ? ASTAGFIRULLAH QURAN KAHAN AUR PEESHAB KAHAN TAUBA TAUBA.
BHAI AMERICA AND IBLEES BUHAT POPULAR HAIN ISS KA YEH MATLAB NAHI KE WOH ACHAY HAIN {(moc)}
AUR RAHI BAAT EKHTALAFAT KI TU BHAI AISE INSAAN KA CHEHRA BAINAQAB KARNA MERA FARZ THA SO MEINE KIA AUR KARTA RAHON GA.
BAQI HUM YAHAN BARELVI/DEOBANDI EKHTALAFAT NAHI CHEERAIN GAI BUT APP PER TU SIR PEETNE KO JEE CAHTA HAI KE KIA BAAT KEH DI APP NE.
ALLAH MUAF FARMAI... AMEEN!
Ameen allah mere gunah maaf farmaye. Yaar mein kya karoon mein bhi in hi logon mein se hoon. Aur mujhe poora bharosa hei in logon per. Ab aap chaiye kuch bhi kahein. Aur aap k nazdeeg woh teheek nahi hei tu bechak aap unka cehra benaqab kijiye. Sab ka apna apna aqeeda hota hei. Aur plz ab is topics ko mere kiehal se close kertay hein. Warna bilwaje hum logon mein be-wajjah bhas hu jaye.
 

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Ahmad Bhai yeh tu koi baat nahi ke meray Ustaad ya Baap ne yeh kaam nahi kiya tu mein bhi nahi karon ga ya meray baron ne yeh nahi mana tu mein bhi nahi manoo ga Haq tu Haq hota hai aur woh har soorat mann na cahiye abb Mufti sahib say tu meri baat nahi hoti app hee poch kar bata dijiye ke Quran-o-Hadith say sabit karain ke yeh Jaiz hai.
Khair aghar iss topic per app baat nahi karna cahty tu thekh hai beharhal meine apna farz nibhaya.
Allah hum sab ko hamesha hamesha Emaan ki daulat ata farmai Ameen
 

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Ahmad Bhai yeh tu koi baat nahi ke meray Ustaad ya Baap ne yeh kaam nahi kiya tu mein bhi nahi karon ga ya meray baron ne yeh nahi mana tu mein bhi nahi manoo ga Haq tu Haq hota hai aur woh har soorat mann na cahiye abb Mufti sahib say tu meri baat nahi hoti app hee poch kar bata dijiye ke Quran-o-Hadith say sabit karain ke yeh Jaiz hai.
Khair aghar iss topic per app baat nahi karna cahty tu thekh hai beharhal meine apna farz nibhaya.
Allah hum sab ko hamesha hamesha Emaan ki daulat ata farmai Ameen
Ameen SUma Aameen. Kher aesa nahi hei. Lakin abhi tak mujhe itni knowledge is baray mein nahi hei. Jab tak mein yeh kitaab pahroon gan nahi mujhe andaza nahi hoga ka kia sahi hei aur kya galat. Aur filhal is topics per abhi baat nahi kertay.
 
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