Asalam o alikum to all muslims
aap ki ye post main ne perhi nien thi es liye jawab nahin diya tha.
Nomi bahi mien ne apni post main ye nahin kaha tha k mien ksi dost ko dekh kar hanfi bana ya ksi dost k kehny pe brelviat ko choora.
bahi jiysa k aap ne kaha k taqleed kis bhi imam ki ho to haram hay aor sirf aor sirf quran aor hadees pe hi amal karna chahye to bahi sab se pehli baat to ye hay k
aap ko, mujhy aor aaj kal k ksi bhi aalim ko kis ne haq diya k ayema karam(RA) k aqwaal ko quran aor hadees perkho???????
aor aqwaal bhi sirf imam abu hanifa(RA) k...
kiya ksi ne imam ahmad , imam shafi aor imam malik(RA) k aqwaal ko quran aor hadees pe perkha???????/
jab tamam akabreen ne ayema karam(SAW) ko salaf aor salheen main shamil kiya to phir hamain kis ne haq diya k un ko quran aor hadees pe parkh sakin?????
os k baad kiya aap ki ilmi salaheyat itni hay k aap quran aor ahadees k mukaml mafhoom ko samjh sako aor phir os k mutabiq faisala kar sako k kis imam ne es ayat aor hadees k mutabiq faisala diya aor kis ne es k khilaf faisala diya????????
aap khud socho k kiya aaj k ksi bhi maslak k ksi bhi aalim ka ilm imam abu hanifa(RA), imam malik(RA), imam ahmad bin hambal(RA) aor ima sahafi(RA) k brabar ho sakta hay??????
aik misaal deta hun k agar aap ki baat ksi MUNKAR-E-HADEES PERVAIZI se hoi ho to shayed aap samjh sako.
wo quran ki aik ayat pesh karty hain aor phir bukhari aor muslim ki ahadees pesh kar k kehty hain k ye hadees MAAZALLAH quran k khilaf hay..
to hum un k jawab main kiya kahin ge????
yehi k tamam mumat-e-muslima k akabreen ne es ayat se aor hadees se ye mafhoom akhaz nahin kiya jo wo munkar-e-hadees pervaizi kar raha hay.
aor tamam akabreen bukhari aor muslim shareef pe mutafiq hain k ye books sahi hain aor wo kahy k ye to ghalat bhi ho sakty hain tum sirf quran aor hadees se jawab do to kiya kaho ge????
agar aap ki ya meri salheyat itni barri hay k sirf quran aor hadees se hi har baat ka jawab de sakin to yahan en akabreen ki zarurat kyun pesh ayi humain????
agar wo jahil kahy k mien quran ki baat karta hun aor tum ulama ki to os ki zehni jihalat pe kiya kaho ge aap????
qadyani hazrat mirza qadyani lannati ko sahi sabit kerny k liye quran ki ayat pesh karty hain aor os ka ghalat mafhoom bayan karty hain to sab se pehla jawab yehi hota hay k jo mafhoom mirza qadyani lannati aor os k ksi qadyani paadri ne es ayat se akhaz kiya hay kiya aaj tak 1400 saal se ksi aalim, muhadis, aor mufasir ne akhaz kiya hay...............
jawab main qadyani to ye kehty hain k hum quran aor hadees ki baat karty hain aor tum ksi aalim , muhadis ki aor wo ghalat ho sakty hain to phir aap os ki zehni aor ilmi salaheyat pe kiya kaho ge????????
brother baat TAQLEED ki hay k haram hay ya bidat hay ya gumrahi hay to mery bahi sirf aik sawal k ye baat sirf aor sirf ahnaf k liye kyun kahi jaati hay??
yahan to jaan churany k liye keh diya jata hay k yahan hambli, shaafi aor malaki nahin hain to mery bahi bhaly wo pakistan main na hun lakin taqleed to karty hain kiya ye baat un k liye bhi hay?????
jab baat taqleed ki aa gyi to os main saary muqalid aa gye bhaly wo jahan kahain bhi hu aor jis k bhi muqalid hun to itraaz zirf ahnaf pe kyun???????
(((((esi forum k aik member se(( mien un ka naam nahin batata)) meri baat ksi aor forum pe hoi aor unhun ne aik masly pe imam abu hanifa(RA) pe itraaz kiya k imam abu hanifa(RA) aor fiqa hanfi ka ye masla quran aor hadees k khilaf hay es liye fiqa hanfi ghalat hay aor quran, hadees k khilaf hay......
mien ne wohi masla imam malik(RA) se bhi sabit kar diya k imam malik(RA) ka bhi yehi masla hay jo imam abu hanifa(RA) ka hay blk ahnaf to phir bhi kuch jawaz k qayel hain jabk imam malik(RA) to bilkul hi es masly k khilaf hain aor sawal kiya k kiya imam malik bhi quran aor hadees k khilaf hain????
to jawab main os member ne imam malik(RA) ki taweel start kar di k wo sahi hain lakin hanfi aor imam abu hanifa(RA) quran aor hadees k khilaf hain)))))))
aap batayen k ab mien es ko kiya naam dun k aik hi masla jab hanfi bayan kary to wo ghalat aor quran , hadees k khilaf aor jab malaki bayan kary to sahi?????????
ahnaf k khilaf books likhny waly hamesah saudia ki baatin karty hain to kiya koi aysa muhaqiq hay jis ne kaha ho k hambli, malaki aor shaafi muqalideen bhi gumrah aor bidati hain apny ayema(RA) ki taqleed karny ki wajah se?????
taqleed k naam pe ahnaf aor imam abu hanifa(RA) k khilaf to yahan quran aor hadees ka naam leny walu ne sainkru books likhi lakin kiya unhun ne koi book likhi hambli, malaki aor shaafi muqalideen k khilaf kyun k wo bhi taqleed karty hain???????????
kiya quran aor hadees k naam pe taqleed ko shirk aor gumrah kehny walu ne koi fatwa lagaya hambli, shaafi aor malaki muqalideen pe?????
yahan to ulti ganga behti hay k wesy to kaha jata hay k quran aor hadees k khilaf jo koi bhi ho hambli, shaafi, malaki aor hanfi wo ghalat hay, phir hanfiat pe to DIRECT fatwa lagta hay k hanfi quran aor hadees k khilaf hain, hanfi aalim ki baat main shirk ki amezish hay es liye ye mushrik hain, weghaira weghaira,
bahi jab quran aor hadees k khilaf jo koi bhi ho wo ghalat aor ye keh kar ahnaf pe to fatwa lagta hay aor ahnaf k khilaf ksi ki baat ko nahin dekha jata bhaly wo ibn teymeya(RA) hun, ibn qayyam (RA) hun ya shikeh ibn baaz(RA) aor ye keh kar en akabren ki baat ko radd kiya jata hay k quran aor hadees k khilaf har kis ki baat mardood hay lakin
jab baat ksi aor fiqa ki aa jaye ya ksi aor imam k muqalid pe to ye to tasleem kar liya jata hay k wo muqalid bhi hay aor ye bhi tasleem kar liya jata hay k os ki batu main shirk ki amezish hay lakin os ko ghalat nahin kehty kyun?????
kyun k allama ibn temyeia(RA) ne os ko sahi kaha,,
allama ibn qayyam(RA) ne os ko sahi kaha,,,
allama albanj aor shiekh ibn baaz(RA) ne os ko sahi kaha,,
ummat-e-muslima os ki saqahat pe mutafiq hay,,,,
es liye hum un pe fatwa nahin lagaty..
yahan wo asool change kyun howa???