Ok, es thread ko Padha lekin mai comment kerne se pahlay mazeed khud ko acknowledge kerna chahte the jho Alhamdulilah ek friend ki through mujhay Mazeed ilm mele Anbiya (A.S) aur voh loug jho Allah k raah mei shaheed hujate hain unke virtues k bare mei.
Aapne jho kaha k kuch ulema ka yeh manna hain k Anbiya Qabro mei zinda hain and unke zindagi Barzakhi nai balke same wordly life jaisa hain, and uske against aap ne jho comment and delayel de MashAllah mujhay bhi same baate janne ko meli and I would like to share that Anbiya and Shaheed k unke wafat hune k baad baki aam insano k terha es donia se unke rabta khatam hujate hain, na hum unhe dekh sakte hain na voh hume dekh sakte hain balke unke Berzakhi life huti hain which means k soul ek cold sleep mei hote hain untill the day of ressurection aur berzakhi life mei kia hota hain voh Allah jante hain. lekin martyres ko jho fazeelat hasel hain hum unhe below kuch hadith and ayats mei padhenge.
“And say not of those who are killed in the way of Allaah, ‘They are dead.’ Nay, they are living, but you perceive (it) not”
[al-Baqarah 2:154]
Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen said:
What is meant is that they are alive with their Lord, as it says in the verse from Aal ‘Imraan, but it is the life of al-barzakh and we do not know how it is. They have no need for food, drink or air, hence Allaah says “but you perceive (it) not” i.e., you do not perceive that they are living, because it is the life of al-barzakh in the unseen. If Allaah had not told us about it we would have no knowledge of it.
Another thing we learn from the verse is that the ''martyrs are alive, but it is the life of al-barzakh which is nothing like life in this world, rather it is better and greater, but we do not know how it is.''
Tafseer Soorat al-Baqarah (2/176, 177).
Ibn Rajab al-Hanbali (may Allaah have mercy on him) said, under the heading: Chapter on the location of the souls of the dead in al-Barzakh:
As for the martyrs, most of the scholars are of the view that they are in Paradise. There are many ahaadeeth which speak of that.
In Saheeh Muslim (1887) it is narrated that Masrooq said: We asked ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Mas’ood about this verse: “Think not of those as dead who are killed in the way of Allaah . Nay, they are alive, with their Lord, and they have provision” [Aal ‘Imraan 3:169].
He said: We also asked about that, and he (the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)) said: “Their souls are in the crops of green birds, which have lamps hanging from the Throne, and they roam freely wherever they want in Paradise, then they return to those lamps…”
Mazeed ek aur hadith be paish kerna chahungi which really attached my heart is that:
Imam Ahmad, Abu Dawood and al-Haakim narrated, in a report that was classed as hasan by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Targheeb (1379), from Sa’eed ibn Jubayr, that Ibn ‘Abbaas said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “When your brethren were slain at Uhud, your Lord put their souls in the crops of green birds that go to the rivers of Paradise and eat of its fruits, then they go back to lamps of gold that are hanging in the shade of the Throne. When they find their food and drink and abode they said: Who will convey to our brethren that we are alive in Paradise and receiving provision, so that they will not give up fighting or turn away from jihad?
And Allaah said: I shall tell them about you. Then Allaah, may He be exalted, revealed the verse: ‘Think not of those as dead who are killed in the way of Allaah . Nay, they are alive, with their Lord, and they have provision’ [Aal ‘Imraan 3:169].”
So yeh tha un chand hadiths mei jho mai ne aaj padhe and I would like to thank Chiragh Bro for opening and talking about such a crucial topic, jes se padhne k baad and reasearch kerne k baad mere ilm mei izafa hua JazakAllah Khair, and jho members bena read kiye comments pass ker rahe hain, es topic se ikhtelaaf kerne ka sense nai banta I would like to tell them please first aap ek bande ka intention samjhe and pir aapna views de,aap sabne es se serf yeh baat samjhe k kessi firqa k dil azari hurahe hain per dusre baat aap ne na jana k jho firqa Allah k ahkamat ko ghalat tareeqay se bayan ker raha hain kia voh sahi hain, kia usay clear kerna humara farz nai?
Quran mei hain k agar aap quran k mutalik ek ayat bhi jante hain tu yeh aapka farz hain k dusre tuk phuchau jho nai jante, so chiragh did the same es se deen mei jabran ki baat kaha se aye.
Allah hum sab ko hidayat de and sahi ilm hasel kerne ki taufeeq atha kare. Ameen summa Ameen.
Aapne jho kaha k kuch ulema ka yeh manna hain k Anbiya Qabro mei zinda hain and unke zindagi Barzakhi nai balke same wordly life jaisa hain, and uske against aap ne jho comment and delayel de MashAllah mujhay bhi same baate janne ko meli and I would like to share that Anbiya and Shaheed k unke wafat hune k baad baki aam insano k terha es donia se unke rabta khatam hujate hain, na hum unhe dekh sakte hain na voh hume dekh sakte hain balke unke Berzakhi life huti hain which means k soul ek cold sleep mei hote hain untill the day of ressurection aur berzakhi life mei kia hota hain voh Allah jante hain. lekin martyres ko jho fazeelat hasel hain hum unhe below kuch hadith and ayats mei padhenge.
“And say not of those who are killed in the way of Allaah, ‘They are dead.’ Nay, they are living, but you perceive (it) not”
[al-Baqarah 2:154]
Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen said:
What is meant is that they are alive with their Lord, as it says in the verse from Aal ‘Imraan, but it is the life of al-barzakh and we do not know how it is. They have no need for food, drink or air, hence Allaah says “but you perceive (it) not” i.e., you do not perceive that they are living, because it is the life of al-barzakh in the unseen. If Allaah had not told us about it we would have no knowledge of it.
Another thing we learn from the verse is that the ''martyrs are alive, but it is the life of al-barzakh which is nothing like life in this world, rather it is better and greater, but we do not know how it is.''
Tafseer Soorat al-Baqarah (2/176, 177).
Ibn Rajab al-Hanbali (may Allaah have mercy on him) said, under the heading: Chapter on the location of the souls of the dead in al-Barzakh:
As for the martyrs, most of the scholars are of the view that they are in Paradise. There are many ahaadeeth which speak of that.
In Saheeh Muslim (1887) it is narrated that Masrooq said: We asked ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Mas’ood about this verse: “Think not of those as dead who are killed in the way of Allaah . Nay, they are alive, with their Lord, and they have provision” [Aal ‘Imraan 3:169].
He said: We also asked about that, and he (the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)) said: “Their souls are in the crops of green birds, which have lamps hanging from the Throne, and they roam freely wherever they want in Paradise, then they return to those lamps…”
Mazeed ek aur hadith be paish kerna chahungi which really attached my heart is that:
Imam Ahmad, Abu Dawood and al-Haakim narrated, in a report that was classed as hasan by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Targheeb (1379), from Sa’eed ibn Jubayr, that Ibn ‘Abbaas said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “When your brethren were slain at Uhud, your Lord put their souls in the crops of green birds that go to the rivers of Paradise and eat of its fruits, then they go back to lamps of gold that are hanging in the shade of the Throne. When they find their food and drink and abode they said: Who will convey to our brethren that we are alive in Paradise and receiving provision, so that they will not give up fighting or turn away from jihad?
And Allaah said: I shall tell them about you. Then Allaah, may He be exalted, revealed the verse: ‘Think not of those as dead who are killed in the way of Allaah . Nay, they are alive, with their Lord, and they have provision’ [Aal ‘Imraan 3:169].”
So yeh tha un chand hadiths mei jho mai ne aaj padhe and I would like to thank Chiragh Bro for opening and talking about such a crucial topic, jes se padhne k baad and reasearch kerne k baad mere ilm mei izafa hua JazakAllah Khair, and jho members bena read kiye comments pass ker rahe hain, es topic se ikhtelaaf kerne ka sense nai banta I would like to tell them please first aap ek bande ka intention samjhe and pir aapna views de,aap sabne es se serf yeh baat samjhe k kessi firqa k dil azari hurahe hain per dusre baat aap ne na jana k jho firqa Allah k ahkamat ko ghalat tareeqay se bayan ker raha hain kia voh sahi hain, kia usay clear kerna humara farz nai?
Quran mei hain k agar aap quran k mutalik ek ayat bhi jante hain tu yeh aapka farz hain k dusre tuk phuchau jho nai jante, so chiragh did the same es se deen mei jabran ki baat kaha se aye.
Allah hum sab ko hidayat de and sahi ilm hasel kerne ki taufeeq atha kare. Ameen summa Ameen.