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[Nelly]

i m ex pakistani and i hate indians because their culture has corrupted minds and heart of our children.
Simple example i hope you won't mind and i don't recognize my self on base of country and it doesn't matter where i m living or staying.

See you are muslim and i find that you also have love for islam because you defend islam when it comes about Islam but yet the picture at your profile doesn't show islam but it represent indian culture / subcontinital culture. That is why i hate indians.

Now tell me How you love islam by violating islam. I hope you don't have answer for it

first thing dat pakistan doesn't deserve ppl like u or u doesn't deserve to live in pakistan.........plz dun mind
but u may hv heard an example ov faithful animals........whether u hit em or put too much load on em, dey will still be faithful to u.........it does't matter but once in a time dey will show dere responsibilities ........
for u, it is just k jis thali main khaya usi main chaid...........plz dun mind abt my language but ur attitude n over smartness is making me to say such words........
u know wat.........even all d pakistanis living in different counties, dey even show hatred towards another..........dey fight alot, but wen it comes sumthin abt pakistan, den dey all get together, non ov dem is punjabi, sindhi, balochi aur whoever..............dey are ONLY pakistani den.


rahi islam ki baat..............toh m not a gud muslim, i do accept d fact dere r many things which God has bind on us, n even me sumtimes dun fulfill dem.........i can ask my ALLAH to show me da right path ov Islam and as everything is required us to do..............so if m not a gud muslim , den should i show a fake image ov mine as a muslim???? is dat rite???? will it be any gud in my favour?????
wese if u hv any czn sisters or ur own sisters, den u should observe dat at any point or any moment dey even dun follow wat Islam asks dem to do...........even u, urself, if u observe things clearly den u r not following ISLAM in a right way
just read dis:
Even as the fingers of the two hands are equal, so are human beings equal to one another. No one has any right, nor any preference to claim over another. You are brothers. (Final Sermon of Muhammad(PBUH))
since u hv joined dis forum i've been observing ur behaviour n over smartness.........in every each post n comment u just criticize others, wat if sum body do dat to u, den wat?..........u won't even lisen to dem properly if dey r right or wrong and just start arguing strait away
i dun wanna carry on anymore arguments wid u...........bcoz wat i c is, its just bhens k aage been bajana
so u carry on posting but if u say any word abt Pakistan or Islam den u'll get a tite reply in return ov it
ALLAH hafiz

 

[kingsalah]

first thing dat pakistan doesn't deserve ppl like u or u doesn't deserve to live in pakistan.........plz dun mind
but u may hv heard an example ov faithful animals........whether u hit em or put too much load on em, dey will still be faithful to u.........it does't matter but once in a time dey will show dere responsibilities ........
for u, it is just k jis thali main khaya usi main chaid...........plz dun mind abt my language but ur attitude n over smartness is making me to say such words........
u know wat.........even all d pakistanis living in different counties, dey even show hatred towards another..........dey fight alot, but wen it comes sumthin abt pakistan, den dey all get together, non ov dem is punjabi, sindhi, balochi aur whoever..............dey are ONLY pakistani den.


rahi islam ki baat..............toh m not a gud muslim, i do accept d fact dere r many things which God has bind on us, n even me sumtimes dun fulfill dem.........i can ask my ALLAH to show me da right path ov Islam and as everything is required us to do..............so if m not a gud muslim , den should i show a fake image ov mine as a muslim???? is dat rite???? will it be any gud in my favour?????
wese if u hv any czn sisters or ur own sisters, den u should observe dat at any point or any moment dey even dun follow wat Islam asks dem to do...........even u, urself, if u observe things clearly den u r not following ISLAM in a right way
just read dis:
Even as the fingers of the two hands are equal, so are human beings equal to one another. No one has any right, nor any preference to claim over another. You are brothers. (Final Sermon of Muhammad(PBUH))
since u hv joined dis forum i've been observing ur behaviour n over smartness.........in every each post n comment u just criticize others, wat if sum body do dat to u, den wat?..........u won't even lisen to dem properly if dey r right or wrong and just start arguing strait away
i dun wanna carry on anymore arguments wid u...........bcoz wat i c is, its just bhens k aage been bajana
so u carry on posting but if u say any word abt Pakistan or Islam den u'll get a tite reply in return ov it
ALLAH hafiz

You ran off and didn't answer my questions, It isn't honesty on your part, Perhaps you don't have any answers.

Thanks and peace

 

[Atif-adi]

You ran off and didn't answer my questions, It isn't honesty on your part, Perhaps you don't have any answers.

Thanks and peace

whew buddy buddy buddy,

let me answer your Q,

first of all,
about nelli's profile pic, dont u think its her personal bussiness u should not stick your nose in it? n buddy about islam, we all have to face Allah on the judgement day, so u better take care of your self BEFORE pointing her out, cuz its NON OF YOUR BUSINESS...
so u better just leave her alone...

ok now regarding pakistan?
buddy u said u were ex paksitani right?
that means ur no longer pakistani, so its better u stay off, wherever u r from go n get your things correct, chahe kuch bhi hojae kitni bhi musibatein ajaein hum log RATS KI TARHA APNA MULK CHOR K BHAGNEY WALUH ME SE NAI HAIN....lols
WE WILL STAY WITH OUR COUNTRY...
hum bure hain bhaley hain, humare apne amal hain ,hum sab ek dosre k hain n we r all paksitani, n WE ARE PROUD TO BE PAKSITANi...
ap ko nai lagta k ager ap paksitani nai hain to apko humare mulk k bare me bolne ka koi haq nai? (speacialy in this paksitani forum)
ager ap 2 , 4 khamia bataenge yaha paksitan ki to me apko 5 , 6 or bata dunga mujhse sun lo mne bata deta hun kya kya kami hai pakistan??
there is no such country jo 100 % perfect ho..aray country ko choro koi ek insan bata do jo 100 % sahi ho?? plss apna nai kehna werna hasi ajaegi lols
her mulk me ups n down chalte hain humari country me zada hai,n hum log apne hukumrano se giley shikwe bhi bht kerte hian, kyu k wo humare APNEY HAIN YE HUMARA (PAKISTANIO ka) HAQ HAI APKA NAi...

so mere bhai yaha ao aram se sab se milo batein karo dosti banao,n apko ager indian n paksitan k lie apni nafrat dikhani hai to apne gher k bahar ek bara sa loud speaker le ker khare hojaein n bla bla kahein im sure u will get some VOTES lols n last thing,
dosro k ghero ki fiker choro apne gher ko sambhalo...

REGARDS ADi,

 

[kingsalah]

whew buddy buddy buddy,

let me answer your Q,

first of all,
about nelli's profile pic, dont u think its her personal bussiness u should not stick your nose in it? n buddy about islam, we all have to face Allah on the judgement day, so u better take care of your self BEFORE pointing her out, cuz its NON OF YOUR BUSINESS...
so u better just leave her alone...

ok now regarding pakistan?
buddy u said u were ex paksitani right?
that means ur no longer pakistani, so its better u stay off, wherever u r from go n get your things correct, chahe kuch bhi hojae kitni bhi musibatein ajaein hum log RATS KI TARHA APNA MULK CHOR K BHAGNEY WALUH ME SE NAI HAIN....lols
WE WILL STAY WITH OUR COUNTRY...
hum bure hain bhaley hain, humare apne amal hain ,hum sab ek dosre k hain n we r all paksitani, n WE ARE PROUD TO BE PAKSITANi...
ap ko nai lagta k ager ap paksitani nai hain to apko humare mulk k bare me bolne ka koi haq nai? (speacialy in this paksitani forum)
ager ap 2 , 4 khamia bataenge yaha paksitan ki to me apko 5 , 6 or bata dunga mujhse sun lo mne bata deta hun kya kya kami hai pakistan??
there is no such country jo 100 % perfect ho..aray country ko choro koi ek insan bata do jo 100 % sahi ho?? plss apna nai kehna werna hasi ajaegi lols
her mulk me ups n down chalte hain humari country me zada hai,n hum log apne hukumrano se giley shikwe bhi bht kerte hian, kyu k wo humare APNEY HAIN YE HUMARA (PAKISTANIO ka) HAQ HAI APKA NAi...

so mere bhai yaha ao aram se sab se milo batein karo dosti banao,n apko ager indian n paksitan k lie apni nafrat dikhani hai to apne gher k bahar ek bara sa loud speaker le ker khare hojaein n bla bla kahein im sure u will get some VOTES lols n last thing,
dosro k ghero ki fiker choro apne gher ko sambhalo...

REGARDS ADi,

Are you speaking on behalf of Nelli, Dude!!!!!!!
I didn't attack on her, I just questioned her and she said, she would answer if i had answered her question. I had answered her question but she didn't answer my question.
Now come to personal business, You are placing your personal business above Islam, It means your personal business is based on your desires not Islam, So you have no right to take shelter of Islam when your personal businesses violates culture of Islam. Infact Islam means total submission (personal or impersonal) to the will of God. I have always seen when it comes to Islam you defend yourself using Islam but when it comes to your personal business you follow ego / desires
See the subject is mentioned in Quran.

EGO as idol (25:43). Most humans, because of their ego cannot bring themselves to worship God, nor can they make their opinion subordinate to God's opinion spelled out in the Quran because of their ego.

Have you seen the one who takes as his god his own desire? Then would you be responsible for him?
http://quran.com/25/43

Now your personal business are your desires which are polluting minds and heart of children. The only reason i hate majority of Pakistan.

Now come to Pakistan, Most of people love Pakistan above Islam, They have made Pakistan as part of their creed, They attribute things to Pakistan which are infact attributes of God.

See this is exactly what your national poet had said, but you don't listen him

ان تازہ خداؤں ميں بڑا سب سے وطن ہے
جو پيرہن اس کا ہے ، وہ مذہب کا کفن ہے
يہ بت کہ تراشيدہء تہذيب نوي ہے
غارت گر کاشانہء دين نبوي ہے
بازو ترا توحيد کي قوت سے قوي ہے
اسلام ترا ديس ہے ، تو مصطفوي ہے
نظارہ ديرينہ زمانے کو دکھا دے
اے مصطفوي خاک ميں اس بت کو ملا دے !
ہو قيد مقامي تو نتيجہ ہے تباہي
رہ بحر ميں آزاد وطن صورت ماہي
ہے ترک وطن سنت محبوب الہي
دے تو بھي نبوت کي صداقت پہ گواہي
گفتار سياست ميں وطن اور ہي کچھ ہے
ارشاد نبوت ميں وطن اور ہي کچھ ہے
اقوام جہاں ميں ہے رقابت تو اسي سے

I didn't show hate indian or to Pakistan, I just answered Questions!!!!

Simply, you also have no answer to my question!!!!!, Just ignore it by saying it is personal businesses. You said you aren't good muslims, Why Can you remove indian/subcontintal culutre from your profile. What is difficulty in changing a picture.
Answer me
Are muslim allowed to violate Quran openly as your personal business is violating???
Thanks and peace.

 

[Atif-adi]

well my answer will b the same,
if u think pakistan have EGO then u r saying to all muslim countries. why?
cuz all countries r same...

for example
egypt a great muslim country,
they have some great muslim scholars but on the other hand, they have u can see thier ladies wearing jeans n tshirts which is not allowed in islam.

look at turkey,indonesia,look at dubai,look at saudia they r all muslim nations but u can find these all things in common.
Even i saw afghan girls wearing jeans in uk n us.
still afghan is fighting for islam, indonesia claming it worlds most populated muslim country? dont u think its ego?
well nooo, cuz they are,so just dont single out pakistan.n again regards nelli its her personal matter,is lie ap apne gher ki n apni fiker kare...

 

[kingsalah]

Thanks, Actually the point is if you claim to be muslim than you should propagate culture of Islam not indian or subcontinental culture and you said about countries, why muslims have different countries because the have left Islam. Whenever they followed islam in the world, they ruled the world. See all rest of Post where people had given lectures about Islam but infact their actions aren't favoring Islam.
Requieste In Pace

 

[Atif-adi]

Are you speaking on behalf of Nelli, Dude!!!!!!!
I didn't attack on her, I just questioned her and she said, she would answer if i had answered her question. I had answered her question but she didn't answer my question.
Now come to personal business, You are placing your personal business above Islam, It means your personal business is based on your desires not Islam, So you have no right to take shelter of Islam when your personal businesses violates culture of Islam. Infact Islam means total submission (personal or impersonal) to the will of God. I have always seen when it comes to Islam you defend yourself using Islam but when it comes to your personal business you follow ego / desires
See the subject is mentioned in Quran.

EGO as idol (25:43). Most humans, because of their ego cannot bring themselves to worship God, nor can they make their opinion subordinate to God's opinion spelled out in the Quran because of their ego.


Now your personal business are your desires which are polluting minds and heart of children. The only reason i hate majority of Pakistan.

Now come to Pakistan, Most of people love Pakistan above Islam, They have made Pakistan as part of their creed, They attribute things to Pakistan which are infact attributes of God.

See this is exactly what your national poet had said, but you don't listen him

ان تازہ خداؤں ميں بڑا سب سے وطن ہے
جو پيرہن اس کا ہے ، وہ مذہب کا کفن ہے
يہ بت کہ تراشيدہء تہذيب نوي ہے
غارت گر کاشانہء دين نبوي ہے
بازو ترا توحيد کي قوت سے قوي ہے
اسلام ترا ديس ہے ، تو مصطفوي ہے
نظارہ ديرينہ زمانے کو دکھا دے
اے مصطفوي خاک ميں اس بت کو ملا دے !
ہو قيد مقامي تو نتيجہ ہے تباہي
رہ بحر ميں آزاد وطن صورت ماہي
ہے ترک وطن سنت محبوب الہي
دے تو بھي نبوت کي صداقت پہ گواہي
گفتار سياست ميں وطن اور ہي کچھ ہے
ارشاد نبوت ميں وطن اور ہي کچھ ہے
اقوام جہاں ميں ہے رقابت تو اسي سے

I didn't show hate indian or to Pakistan, I just answered Questions!!!!

Simply, you also have no answer to my question!!!!!, Just ignore it by saying it is personal businesses. You said you aren't good muslims, Why Can you remove indian/subcontintal culutre from your profile. What is difficulty in changing a picture.
Answer me
Are muslim allowed to violate Quran openly as your personal business is violating???
Thanks and peace.

chalein nelli ki profile chore apki profile pic ki bat kerte hain,
do u knwo that sketch banana or tasweer lagana kisi jandar ki gunah hai??
apne bhi lagai hai or violate kia hai Quran ko openly,

so ab is bare me kya kahenge ap?

 

[Atif-adi]

Thanks, Actually the point is if you claim to be muslim than you should propagate culture of Islam not indian or subcontinental culture and you said about countries, why muslims have different countries because the have left Islam. Whenever they followed islam in the world, they ruled the world. See all rest of Post where people had given lectures about Islam but infact their actions aren't favoring Islam.
Requieste In Pace

dekho bhai i know k kisi ko bhi lecture dene se pehle apne ap ko dekhna chaiye, but at the end of the day, ager koi achi bat batae (bhale wo us per na amal kerta ho ) to is me burai kya hai?
i get your point valid but the fact is k hum kisi ko single out n criticise na kare, there should be only one msg "the msg of love n peace" chahe wo islamic nazariye se pehlae jae ya political ya kisi bhi taree k se....n dosri bat me apko batata hun wo ye k paksitanio ko khud per EGO nai hai they are PROUD n me samjhta hun her ek ko apni country per naaz hona chaiye...

 

[kingsalah]

chalein nelli ki profile chore apki profile pic ki bat kerte hain,
do u knwo that sketch banana or tasweer lagana kisi jandar ki gunah hai??
apne bhi lagai hai or violate kia hai Quran ko openly,

so ab is bare me kya kahenge ap?

Main islam ko discussion main nahi lata, Log latay hain or main ne unn ki haqeeqat batai hai, yani agar Islam se itni hi mohabaat hai to phir apni khawashat ki perwi kyun kartay ho, agar ap ko meri profile ki picture se problem hai to main ess ko change kar deta hun, kyun muje in profiles, in posts, in avatars se koi mohabbat nahi hai, lekan sawal yeh ata hai kon or change karay ga. Kia ap apnay signature ko change kar dain gay jo kay pure indian culture hai or esss ka Islam se koi talaq nahi hai?????

See i have changed the picture!!!.

You can see this thread i haven't started discussion of islam. People use Islam to defend themselves.

 

[Nelly]

hahahaha
lol, kingsalah u r making me laugh for sum reason now............anyways, u started it first, didn't u? i was talking only abt pakistan den u brought Islam in our conversation or discussion watever u calll it and now u r saying k people do dat
make up ur mind first ..........and if u c all ur old replies den in every each ov ur reply, u tried to change d topic, once u talk abt pakistan and in another u go against d first one and start discussing Islam
y tho????
its like u r nt even sure abt urself dat wat's in ur mind.............like now..........u were blaming on me abt ma avi, but if u were so sure den u should've think abt ur avi too............and wen adi pointed on it den u just changed it strait away
do u really know dat dere is sumthing wrong wid ur avatar? and it is going against the Islam???

 

[Nelly]

and one more thing............do say watever u say or explain in ur own words ok............coz everybody can copy n paste frm internet and post it as other's reply.....but da better thing is ur own words , thinking, experiences

 

[Nelly]

dekho bhai i know k kisi ko bhi lecture dene se pehle apne ap ko dekhna chaiye, but at the end of the day, ager koi achi bat batae (bhale wo us per na amal kerta ho ) to is me burai kya hai?
i get your point valid but the fact is k hum kisi ko single out n criticise na kare, there should be only one msg "the msg of love n peace" chahe wo islamic nazariye se pehlae jae ya political ya kisi bhi taree k se....n dosri bat me apko batata hun wo ye k paksitanio ko khud per EGO nai hai they are PROUD n me samjhta hun her ek ko apni country per naaz hona chaiye...

rite adi
and pata hai abi monitor k peeche beth k log internet se copy and paste kar k pages k pages fill kar sakte hain but agar yehi baat in se kahi jaye k jaa k pakistan k hukmranon se ya saari awaam se bolo, unhain ehsaas dilao, apni nafrat zahir karo pakistan k liye............toh kya ye waqai esa kart sakenge? ya isi josh aur confidence se bol sakenge

 

[Zee Leo]

leave him nelli he dont have normal mind

 

[Nelly]

Are you speaking on behalf of Nelli, Dude!!!!!!!
I didn't attack on her, I just questioned her and she said, she would answer if i had answered her question. I had answered her question but she didn't answer my question.
Now come to personal business, You are placing your personal business above Islam, It means your personal business is based on your desires not Islam, So you have no right to take shelter of Islam when your personal businesses violates culture of Islam. Infact Islam means total submission (personal or impersonal) to the will of God. I have always seen when it comes to Islam you defend yourself using Islam but when it comes to your personal business you follow ego / desires
See the subject is mentioned in Quran.

EGO as idol (25:43). Most humans, because of their ego cannot bring themselves to worship God, nor can they make their opinion subordinate to God's opinion spelled out in the Quran because of their ego.


Now your personal business are your desires which are polluting minds and heart of children. The only reason i hate majority of Pakistan.

Now come to Pakistan, Most of people love Pakistan above Islam, They have made Pakistan as part of their creed, They attribute things to Pakistan which are infact attributes of God.

See this is exactly what your national poet had said, but you don't listen him

ان تازہ خداؤں ميں بڑا سب سے وطن ہے
جو پيرہن اس کا ہے ، وہ مذہب کا کفن ہے
يہ بت کہ تراشيدہء تہذيب نوي ہے
غارت گر کاشانہء دين نبوي ہے
بازو ترا توحيد کي قوت سے قوي ہے
اسلام ترا ديس ہے ، تو مصطفوي ہے
نظارہ ديرينہ زمانے کو دکھا دے
اے مصطفوي خاک ميں اس بت کو ملا دے !
ہو قيد مقامي تو نتيجہ ہے تباہي
رہ بحر ميں آزاد وطن صورت ماہي
ہے ترک وطن سنت محبوب الہي
دے تو بھي نبوت کي صداقت پہ گواہي
گفتار سياست ميں وطن اور ہي کچھ ہے
ارشاد نبوت ميں وطن اور ہي کچھ ہے
اقوام جہاں ميں ہے رقابت تو اسي سے

I didn't show hate indian or to Pakistan, I just answered Questions!!!!

Simply, you also have no answer to my question!!!!!, Just ignore it by saying it is personal businesses. You said you aren't good muslims, Why Can you remove indian/subcontintal culutre from your profile. What is difficulty in changing a picture.
Answer me
Are muslim allowed to violate Quran openly as your personal business is violating???
Thanks and peace.

y u think he is speaking behalf ov me? is there only me on dis forum who is d only pakistan???? every body else is pakistani too and dey are not like u dat living in d same country and going against itself
rite, now i want u to hear every pakistani's thoughts and replies on dis topic .............just wait and we'll clarify all ur misunderstandings

 

[kingsalah]

hahahaha
lol, kingsalah u r making me laugh for sum reason now............anyways, u started it first, didn't u? i was talking only abt pakistan den u brought Islam in our conversation or discussion watever u calll it and now u r saying k people do dat
make up ur mind first ..........and if u c all ur old replies den in every each ov ur reply, u tried to change d topic, once u talk abt pakistan and in another u go against d first one and start discussing Islam
y tho????
its like u r nt even sure abt urself dat wat's in ur mind.............like now..........u were blaming on me abt ma avi, but if u were so sure den u should've think abt ur avi too............and wen adi pointed on it den u just changed it strait away
do u really know dat dere is sumthing wrong wid ur avatar? and it is going against the Islam???

I know there is problem in my avatar because it represents figurative Art. Figurative Art are not allowed in Islam. But i am 100% sure your avatar is violating this verse of Quran See you avatar is against quranic culture.
http://quran.com/33/59
Now Here is you started discussion by saying "Allah pak hum par reham karay"
http://www.tafrehmela.com/pakistan-news/158747-pakistan-successfully-tests-fires-ballistic-missile.html#post1177632
The Question is, Jab ap log Allah ko follow hi nahi kar rahay to Allah ko beecha main lanay wali kia baat hai, Ap ne Allah kay naam ko bhi aik khawaish bana lia hai jahan dil hota hai wahan peh pesh kar detay hain. I m sorry to say.

You can't change your pictures for sake of Allah how you can change your desires which are so deep in your souls.

I m not somekind of ruler of Islam but we must accept our reality.

Thanks and peace

 

[Atif-adi]

Main islam ko discussion main nahi lata, Log latay hain or main ne unn ki haqeeqat batai hai, yani agar Islam se itni hi mohabaat hai to phir apni khawashat ki perwi kyun kartay ho, agar ap ko meri profile ki picture se problem hai to main ess ko change kar deta hun, kyun muje in profiles, in posts, in avatars se koi mohabbat nahi hai, lekan sawal yeh ata hai kon or change karay ga. Kia ap apnay signature ko change kar dain gay jo kay pure indian culture hai or esss ka Islam se koi talaq nahi hai?????

See i have changed the picture!!!.

You can see this thread i haven't started discussion of islam. People use Islam to defend themselves.

dekho bhai im not talking about islam, kyu k ager me islamic bat karunga to ye ap yaha is furum pe hain wo bhi ghalat hai, a muslim should not waste his time like this in gosspis n all,her muslim ko be maksad baaton se parhaiz kerna chaiye...
n mujhe tumari ava se koi prob nai bas mene apko explain kerne k lie kaha tha, n rahi bat nelli k avi ki to wo paksitani cultural shalwar kamees hai, not indian it is way better then jeans n all to ap nelli k ava n sigi ko kyu point ker raha ho...

ager ap nelli ko kehte ho k wo islam ka sahara le rahi hai khud ko defend kerne to ap kis ka le rahe ho sahara? islam ka hi na?

 

[kingsalah]

leave him nelli he dont have normal mind

Yes i don't follow what is right in your mind. Even your mind doesn't know what is right and what is wrong.

 

[Sara Cilli Milli]

the only thing is ............k aaj kal pakistan ko pakistan nai rakha jaa ra........balki har koi apni hi hukoomat chalaye jaa raha hai........aur beech main peeesi jaa rahi hai awam.................ALLAH hum pe rehem kare aur in luteron se nijaat dilaye(Ameen)

hmmm

 

[Sara Cilli Milli]

yaha ki hoinggggggggggg ..............

 

[Sara Cilli Milli]

we r proud to be a pakistani agr hum apny ap ko thora sa change kar ly to better ho jay gy Pakistan mai bohat si cheezy asi ho rhi hy jo nhi honi chiya .......