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Hoorain

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waalaikum assalam
JAZAKALLAH for sharing
aapki post se ye to samajh aa rhi hay k BIddat kisse kehte hain,,magar kahi bhi wazea alfaz may ye nhi kaha gya hay k aisal-e-sawab k liye Quran khawani karwana biddat hay :s
isse thora mazeed clear karain plz !
 

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waalaikum assalam
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aapki post se ye to samajh aa rhi hay k BIddat kisse kehte hain,,magar kahi bhi wazea alfaz may ye nhi kaha gya hay k aisal-e-sawab k liye Quran khawani karwana biddat hay :s
isse thora mazeed clear karain plz !
Behnaa Waazeh alfaaz mien kaise hoga is baray mein kiun kay Is ka Rasool S.A.W.W aur sahaba aur khulafaa kay dour mein is koi wajood hi nhn tha jo un ki taraf se is per koi detail ho ... yeh toh Ulama kehte hain ke jab is ka wajood hi nhn toh kiun ki jaaye aur wajood hi nhn tha toh is ka matlab yeh bidat huwi ..

aap yeh thread dekhienhttp://www.tafreehmella.com/threads/mayyat-ko-aisaal-sawaab-kaise-pohnchayien.209384/


Aur aap yeh again padhain is mein yeh hai Rasool S.A.W.W kabhi nhn ki aur na hukum diya toh wazeh ho gaya kay yeh bidat hai

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walaikum assalam @kool~nomi bhai
mashaAllah se aapne ek acche topic ka inteqaab kia.
aur bahot hi mehnat se aapne itni saari signature type banayi hain.
khushi hui
jazakAllah khair.:)
JazakaAllah Brother... Aap Vote Kardain Please ..Aap bhi kuch agar kuch info Hai toh idher post kardain is thread mein jazakaAllah
 
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Wa'alaikumussalaam MASHA'ALLAH wa JAZAKALLAH khairaan
bohot hi khoobsurat mufeed o naseehatamouz thread lagaya hai @kool~nomi bhai
kuch shak nahin ke aaj ke EHL E IMAAN ke bohot bare tabqe ne
biddat hi ko sunnat maan rakha hai aur eisaal e sawaab sameit
hajj,rouze,namaaz jese ehem arkaan tak mein izaafe ki koshish kar rahe hote hain
ALLAH PAK un sub ko hidayat de Aameen .



Tumhaara sawal to Nomi bhai se tha magar mein dost hone ke naate
jawaab de raha hoon umeed hai tumhen bura nahin lagega
@shizkua tumhen koi ghalat fehmi huwi hai ya kisi ne ghalat baat kahi hai kyunke
taraveeh bajamaat biddat e hasna nahin hai taraweeh ki namaz to eik do maqamaat per
ALLAH ke RASOOL saww ne masjid mein Sahaba r.a ko parhaiy per is soch se ke
ummat per farz na ho jaaye iske bajmaat parhe jaane ka silsila munqata huwa
phir hadhrat Abu Bakar r.a ke daur me bhi bajamat nahin parha jata tha
aur phir Hadhrat Umer e Farooq r.a ne iska silsila ba jamat hone se ibtida karwaiy
aur is per eik sahabi r.a ne sawal kiya ke ye biddat nahin phir unhone farmaya
ye kitni achhi biddat hai
ise biddat yaani naiy aejaad is liye nahin kaha gaya ke ye sunnat e Rasool a.s nahin tha
balke ise biddat is liye kaha gaya kyunke ye eik sahabi r.a ke daur me nahin tha so
waqt e haazir ke liye wo shey naiy eijaad thi tabhi use biddat kaha gaya tha : )
aur masjid mein sahaba r.a ke saath taraveeh ko sunnat e RASOOL a.s mein abhi saabit kiye deta hoon

Sahih Bukhaari,kitab salatut Taraveeh,hadeeth#2012


حدثنا يحيى بن بكير،‏‏‏‏ حدثنا الليث،‏‏‏‏ عن عقيل،‏‏‏‏ عن ابن شهاب،‏‏‏‏ أخبرني عروة،‏‏‏‏ أن عائشة
ـ رضى الله عنها ـ أخبرته أن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم خرج ليلة من جوف الليل
،‏‏‏‏ فصلى في المسجد،‏‏‏‏ وصلى رجال بصلاته،‏‏‏‏ فأصبح الناس فتحدثوا،‏‏‏‏ فاجتمع أكثر منهم،‏‏‏‏ فصلوا معه،‏‏‏‏
فأصبح الناس فتحدثوا،‏‏‏‏ فكثر أهل المسجد من الليلة الثالثة،‏‏‏‏ فخرج رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم فصلى،‏‏‏‏
فصلوا بصلاته،‏‏‏‏ فلما كانت الليلة الرابعة عجز المسجد عن أهله،‏‏‏‏ حتى خرج لصلاة الصبح،
‏‏‏‏ فلما قضى الفجر أقبل على الناس،‏‏‏‏ فتشهد ثم قال ‏"‏ أما بعد،‏‏‏‏ فإنه لم يخف على مكانكم،
‏‏‏‏ ولكني خشيت أن تفترض عليكم فتعجزوا عنها ‏"‏‏.‏ فتوفي رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم والأمر على ذلك
اور ہم سے یحییٰ بن بکیر نے بیان کیا، کہا کہ ہم سے لیث بن سعد نے بیان کیا،
ان سے عقیل نے، ان سے ابن شہاب نے، انہیں عروہ نے خبر دی اور انہیں
عائشہ رضی اللہ عنہا نے خبر دی کہ رسول اللہ صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم
ایک مرتبہ (رمضان کی) نصف شب میں مسجد تشریف لے گئے اور وہاں تراویح کی
نماز پڑھی۔ کچھ صحابہ رضی اللہ عنہم بھی آپ کے ساتھ نماز میں شریک ہو گئے۔ صبح ہوئی
تو انہوں نے اس کا چرچا کیا۔ چنانچہ دوسری رات میں لوگ پہلے سے بھی زیادہ جمع ہو گئے
اور آپ صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم کے ساتھ نماز پڑھی۔ دوسری صبح کو اور زیادہ چرچا ہوا اور تیسری رات اس سے
بھی زیادہ لوگ جمع ہو گئے۔ آپ نے (اس رات بھی) نماز پڑھی اور لوگوں نے آپ صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم کی
اقتداء کی۔ چوتھی رات کو یہ عالم تھا کہ مسجد میں نماز پڑھنے آنے والوں کے لیے
جگہ بھی باقی نہیں رہی تھی۔ (لیکن اس رات آپ برآمد ہی نہیں ہوئے) بلکہ صبح کی
نماز کے لیے باہر تشریف لائے۔ جب نماز پڑھ لی تو لوگوں کی طرف متوجہ
ہو کر شہادت کے بعد فرمایا۔ امابعد! تمہارے یہاں جمع ہونے کا مجھے علم تھا،
لیکن مجھے خوف اس کا ہوا کہ کہیں یہ نماز تم پر فرض نہ کر دی جائے اور
پھر تم اس کی ادائیگی سے عاجز ہو جاؤ،
چنانچہ جب نبی کریم صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم کی وفات ہوئی تو یہی کیفیت قائم رہی۔
@f-iceage bhai ji zarur search karen aur bataaen
mein aapka shukarguzaar rahunga aapki is mehnat ke baad
yahaan posting ka mene bhi ab tak eisaal e sawaab ka
sahih ahadeeth se teen tareeqon ka hi parha hai
tabhi aap ke tehqeeq se ilm me izaafa ho sakta hai to INSHA'ALLAH
zaroor pooch kar bataaiyega
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yup i ws wrong.........thnx 4 correction
 

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oooooo aap kehna tha....
thk hai AAAAAAAAAAAAP puchlena taraweeh ka bhi.....
Taraweeh padna sunnat hai wo ek nafl ibaadat hai...........agar aap nahi padte to kuch deduct nahi hoga but agar aap padte hain to xtra uska sawaab milega.
Sis iska reference mere paas hai but ghar par hai mai jab bhi ghar jaungi tab aapko de dungi.
 

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Asalam o alikum to all muslims

Mery khayal se isaal-e-sawab k liye Quran Khowani Bidat nien hay lakin aaj kal jo tareeqy rayej hain esaal-e-sawab aor Quran khowani k wo tareeqy sahi nien hain..........
agar koi tareeqa ghalat hay to os ki wajah se quran khowani ko bidat kehna sahi nahin..
 
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Asalam o alikum to all muslims

Mery khayal se isaal-e-sawab k liye Quran Khowani Bidat nien hay lakin aaj kal jo tareeqy rayej hain esaal-e-sawab aor Quran khowani k wo tareeqy sahi nien hain..........
agar koi tareeqa ghalat hay to os ki wajah se quran khowani ko bidat kehna sahi nahin..
Walaikum Salam ....
Brother Ok Toh Aap Refference dain jidher likha ho kay mayyat kay aisal -e- sawab kay liye Quran padha jaaye ... Rasool S.A.W.W Ki Hadees ho .. And Bro Bidat ki Simple si defination hai Her Woh Kaam Jo Sawab Samajh Kay Kiya Jaye Per Us ka Allah Aur Rasool S.A.W.W Nay Hukum Na Diya Ho .. Is Baat Rakhtay Huway yeh bidat hai moaziz bhai
 

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Mien aap ko refference de dunga aap padhlena
bro mene mufti sahab se pochlia ... ap bilkul thik kehre thay kisi se Qur'aan khuwani sabit ni hai... isliay esa krne se kafi nuqsanat b hen wo ye k kisi ka Qur'aan sai na ho to uska gunah b or kisi ko lazmi bulwa k us pe bojh dal dena or subse bari bat dikhlawa hota hai... so agr kisi ne kisi mayyat ko sawab pohnchana hai to wo apni taraf se parh k pohncha skta hai magr is tarhan ka intizam krna or phr khana waghera b krna ye kisi se sabit ni hai... Jazak Allah bro aapne meri islah ki...
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Asalam o alikum to all muslims

Mery khayal se isaal-e-sawab k liye Quran Khowani Bidat nien hay lakin aaj kal jo tareeqy rayej hain esaal-e-sawab aor Quran khowani k wo tareeqy sahi nien hain..........
agar koi tareeqa ghalat hay to os ki wajah se quran khowani ko bidat kehna sahi nahin..
wa alaikum ussalam... bro Qur'aan parh k ap sawab zaror pohncha sktay hen lekin is tarhan ka intizam krna k subko bulwa k pura intizam krna ye thik ni... i mean kisi se sabit ni... ap khud jitna parhskte hen ap parh k pohnchayen... warna ap dosron ko bulwa k parhwayen to patani kis ka Qur'aan kesa ho ? to jiska ghalat hoga uska gunah b to hai ? Q k Qur'aan mai 1 zabar zair se b ma'ani pe itna farq parjata hai to phr to wo pura sipara parhenge ? thora ghor kren bro... mjhe b thora doubt tha @kool~nomi bhai ki bat pe isliay mene kal mufti sahab se pocha to unho ne ye sub btaya mjhe...
 

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bro mene mufti sahab se pochlia ... ap bilkul thik kehre thay kisi se Qur'aan khuwani sabit ni hai... isliay esa krne se kafi nuqsanat b hen wo ye k kisi ka Qur'aan sai na ho to uska gunah b or kisi ko lazmi bulwa k us pe bojh dal dena or subse bari bat dikhlawa hota hai... so agr kisi ne kisi mayyat ko sawab pohnchana hai to wo apni taraf se parh k pohncha skta hai magr is tarhan ka intizam krna or phr khana waghera b krna ye kisi se sabit ni hai... Jazak Allah bro aapne meri islah ki...
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wa alaikum ussalam... bro Qur'aan parh k ap sawab zaror pohncha sktay hen lekin is tarhan ka intizam krna k subko bulwa k pura intizam krna ye thik ni... i mean kisi se sabit ni... ap khud jitna parhskte hen ap parh k pohnchayen... warna ap dosron ko bulwa k parhwayen to patani kis ka Qur'aan kesa ho ? to jiska ghalat hoga uska gunah b to hai ? Q k Qur'aan mai 1 zabar zair se b ma'ani pe itna farq parjata hai to phr to wo pura sipara parhenge ? thora ghor kren bro... mjhe b thora doubt tha @kool~nomi bhai ki bat pe isliay mene kal mufti sahab se pocha to unho ne ye sub btaya mjhe...

Asalam o alikum to all muslims
Brother mien bhi yehi keh raha hun k aaj kal jo tareeqy rayej hain quran khowani perh k isaal-e-sawab karny k wo sahi nahin jiysa k qul, geyarvin, teeja, chaleswan weghaira................ ya phr koi aik din makhsoos kar k koi aik quran ki surat makhsoos kar k perhty hain ye bhi sahi nien....
quran pehrna hay to banda ksi bhi time perh sakta hay es k liye koi din to makhsoos nien hay.
lakin apny ksi dost k liye ya janany waly k liye jo mar chuka hay banda khud to quran ki koi na koi ayat ya surat perh k isaal-e-sawab kar sakta hay.......
حدّثنا أَبُو بَكْرِ بْنُ أَبِي شَيْبَةَ . حَدَّثَنَا عَلِيُّ بْنُ الْحَسَنِ بْنِ شَقِيقٍ ، عَنِ ابْنِ الْمُبَارَكِ ، عَنْ سُلَيْمَانَ التَّيْمِيِّ ، عَنْ أَبِي عُثْمَانَ وَلَيْسَ بِالنَّهْدِيِّ ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، عَنْ مَعْقِلِ بْنِ يَسَارٍ ، قَالَ: قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ: «اِقْرَؤُوهَا عِنْدَ مَوْتَاكُمْ» يَعْنِي يَس. ‏
The Prophet of Allah Said: Recite It (Iqarahu) on ('Inda) the deceased/dying that means Surah Yaseen.
(Sunan Ibn Majah, Kitab Al Janaiz #1448)
The commentator of Sunan Ibn Majah further states:
قوله ( عند موتاكم ) ‏
His saying : On the deceased/dying -- That is to say on the dying or (Aw) after (Ba'ad) death Also.
(Sharh Sunan Ibn Majah Al Sanadi , Ibid)
(حديث مرفوع) أَخْبَرَنَا أَبُو نَصْرٍ عُمَرُ بْنُ عَبْدِ الْعَزِيزِ بْنِ قَتَادَةَ ، أنا أَبُو الْحَسَنِ مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ الْحَسَنِ السَّرَّاجُ ، نا مُطَيَّنٌ ، نا جَعْفَرُ بْنُ حُمَيْدٍ ، نا ابْنُ الْمُبَارَكِ ، عَنِ التَّيْمِيِّ ، عَنْ أَبِي عُثْمَانَ ، وَلَيْسَ بِالنَّهْدِيِّ ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ ، عَنْ مَعْقِلِ بْنِ يَسَارٍ ، قَالَ : قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ : " اقْرَءُوهَا عِنْدَ مَوْتَاكُمْ " ، يَعْنِي يس .
Narrated byMa'qil ibn Yasar al-Muzani
The Prophet (peace be upon him) said, "If anyone recites Ya-Sin out of a desire for Allah's favour, his past sins will be forgiven him; so recite it over those of you who are dying."
Bayhaqi transmitted it in Shu'ab al-Iman.
It is narrated in Sahih Muslim from Amr bin al-Aas (RA) that he said: When you have buried me then stand around my grave for a time in which a Camel could be slaughtered and its meat is distributed, so that I may "ENJOY YOUR COMPANY" and ascertain what answer I can give to the messengers (angels) of Allah.
It is narrated in Abu Dawud and Baihaqi with "HASSAN" chain from Uthman (RA) who said: The Prophet (Peace be upon him) after burying the deceased used to stand (on his side) and say: Ask Allah for his forgivenss and that he should stand firm because he is being questioned.
Imam Shafi'i (rah) and his companions said: To recite something from Quran (at the grave) is recommended, If "KHATAM UL QURAN" is done then it is even better.
It is narrated in Sunnan Baihaqi with "HASSAN CHAIN" that Ibn Umar (ra) considered it Mustahab to recite Beginning and ending Ayahs of Surah Baqarah at the grave after burying [Kitab ul Adhkaar, Page No. 278]
 

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bro mene mufti sahab se pochlia ... ap bilkul thik kehre thay kisi se Qur'aan khuwani sabit ni hai... isliay esa krne se kafi nuqsanat b hen wo ye k kisi ka Qur'aan sai na ho to uska gunah b or kisi ko lazmi bulwa k us pe bojh dal dena or subse bari bat dikhlawa hota hai... so agr kisi ne kisi mayyat ko sawab pohnchana hai to wo apni taraf se parh k pohncha skta hai magr is tarhan ka intizam krna or phr khana waghera b krna ye kisi se sabit ni hai... Jazak Allah bro aapne meri islah ki...
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wa alaikum ussalam... bro Qur'aan parh k ap sawab zaror pohncha sktay hen lekin is tarhan ka intizam krna k subko bulwa k pura intizam krna ye thik ni... i mean kisi se sabit ni... ap khud jitna parhskte hen ap parh k pohnchayen... warna ap dosron ko bulwa k parhwayen to patani kis ka Qur'aan kesa ho ? to jiska ghalat hoga uska gunah b to hai ? Q k Qur'aan mai 1 zabar zair se b ma'ani pe itna farq parjata hai to phr to wo pura sipara parhenge ? thora ghor kren bro... mjhe b thora doubt tha @kool~nomi bhai ki bat pe isliay mene kal mufti sahab se pocha to unho ne ye sub btaya mjhe...
Farhan bhai arz yeh kay agar saabit nhn toh bas isay chor dena hi behtar hai is kay faiday aur nuksaanaat nhn dekhte jaatay kiun kay Nabi S.A.W.W Nay yeh kam nhn kiya toh hum nay bhi nhn karna bhalay is mein kitne hi faaiday hon bas humien sirf itna kehna hai k simple yeh ke yeh bidat hai ab aap ko bhi clear ho gaya .... Baaki Rahi Baat apni taraf se padhnay ki kisi mayyat ke liye quran toh yeh bhi sabit nhn hai jo sabit hai woh yeh batien aap is thread mein padh lain http://www.tafreehmella.com/threads/mayyat-ko-aisaal-sawaab-kaise-pohnchayien.209384/#post-1844957

Is kay ilawa kuch duyien hain woh aap mayyat ki maghfirat ke liye padh saktay hain baaki quran padhnay ka kahin zikir nhn kiun kay Marnay walay ka is duniya se ab connection khatam ho gaya ab usay hum nekiyan nhn pohncha saktay aur quran padhnay se nekiyan milti hain Aur humien unki maghfirat karwani hai so humien un kay liye dua mangni chaye maghfirat ki and jo duyien batayi hain maghfirat ki woh padhni chaye na kay apni taraf se kuch yeh toh jani aap ko bhi pata hai bidat kitna bada gunnah hai aur hum ya aap ya koi aalim ya koi mufti apni taraf se yeh nhn keh sakta kay quran padh saktay hain halankay humien Huzoor S.A.W.W nhn bataya Toh Aur koi Koun Hota hai humien yeh batanay ya fatwa laganay wala kay aap yeh kam karsktay ho Yeh nichay mene dua behji hai bakshish ki mishkat shareef mein hai aap dekh lijye ga is mein thodi clear image nhn arahi ...... Maghfirat ki dua karnay se aur sadqa karnay se Qabar ki aag thandi hogi aur Murday ko sukoon milega ... JazakaAllah Bro Aap Mazeed tehqeeq karain aur Mufti sahab se puchien kay quran khud padhnay ka bhi refference dain ... Hope aap mind nhn karienge kiun k haq baat kehne se kisi ko rukna nhn chaye aur yeh nhn dekhna chaye ke samnay wala koun hai aur bura toh nhn manayegaa bas haqeeqi dar Allah ka hona chaye kahin woh naraz na ho jaye JazakaAllah @F-iceage

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bro mene mufti sahab se pochlia ... ap bilkul thik kehre thay kisi se Qur'aan khuwani sabit ni hai... isliay esa krne se kafi nuqsanat b hen wo ye k kisi ka Qur'aan sai na ho to uska gunah b or kisi ko lazmi bulwa k us pe bojh dal dena or subse bari bat dikhlawa hota hai... so agr kisi ne kisi mayyat ko sawab pohnchana hai to wo apni taraf se parh k pohncha skta hai magr is tarhan ka intizam krna or phr khana waghera b krna ye kisi se sabit ni hai... Jazak Allah bro aapne meri islah ki...
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wa alaikum ussalam... bro Qur'aan parh k ap sawab zaror pohncha sktay hen lekin is tarhan ka intizam krna k subko bulwa k pura intizam krna ye thik ni... i mean kisi se sabit ni... ap khud jitna parhskte hen ap parh k pohnchayen... warna ap dosron ko bulwa k parhwayen to patani kis ka Qur'aan kesa ho ? to jiska ghalat hoga uska gunah b to hai ? Q k Qur'aan mai 1 zabar zair se b ma'ani pe itna farq parjata hai to phr to wo pura sipara parhenge ? thora ghor kren bro... mjhe b thora doubt tha @kool~nomi bhai ki bat pe isliay mene kal mufti sahab se pocha to unho ne ye sub btaya mjhe...
Farhan bhai arz yeh kay agar saabit nhn toh bas isay chor dena hi behtar hai is kay faiday aur nuksaanaat nhn dekhte jaatay kiun kay Nabi S.A.W.W Nay yeh kam nhn kiya toh hum nay bhi nhn karna bhalay is mein kitne hi faaiday hon bas humien sirf itna kehna hai k simple yeh ke yeh bidat hai ab aap ko bhi clear ho gaya .... Baaki Rahi Baat apni taraf se padhnay ki kisi mayyat ke liye quran toh yeh bhi sabit nhn hai jo sabit hai woh yeh batien aap is thread mein padh lain http://www.tafreehmella.com/threads/mayyat-ko-aisaal-sawaab-kaise-pohnchayien.209384/#post-1844957

Is kay ilawa kuch duyien hain woh aap mayyat ki maghfirat ke liye padh saktay hain baaki quran padhnay ka kahin zikir nhn kiun kay Marnay walay ka is duniya se ab connection khatam ho gaya ab usay hum nekiyan nhn pohncha saktay aur quran padhnay se nekiyan milti hain Aur humien unki maghfirat karwani hai so humien un kay liye dua mangni chaye maghfirat ki and jo duyien batayi hain maghfirat ki woh padhni chaye na kay apni taraf se kuch yeh toh jani aap ko bhi pata hai bidat kitna bada gunnah hai aur hum ya aap ya koi aalim ya koi mufti apni taraf se yeh nhn keh sakta kay quran padh saktay hain halankay humien Huzoor S.A.W.W nhn bataya Toh Aur koi Koun Hota hai humien yeh batanay ya fatwa laganay wala kay aap yeh kam karsktay ho Yeh nichay mene dua behji hai bakshish ki mishkat shareef mein hai aap dekh lijye ga is mein thodi clear image nhn arahi ...... Maghfirat ki dua karnay se aur sadqa karnay se Qabar ki aag thandi hogi aur Murday ko sukoon milega ... JazakaAllah Bro Aap Mazeed tehqeeq karain aur Mufti sahab se puchien kay quran khud padhnay ka bhi refference dain ... Hope aap mind nhn karienge kiun k haq baat kehne se kisi ko rukna nhn chaye aur yeh nhn dekhna chaye ke samnay wala koun hai aur bura toh nhn manayegaa bas haqeeqi dar Allah ka hona chaye kahin woh naraz na ho jaye JazakaAllah @F-iceage

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Asalam o alikum to all muslims
Brother mien bhi yehi keh raha hun k aaj kal jo tareeqy rayej hain quran khowani perh k isaal-e-sawab karny k wo sahi nahin jiysa k qul, geyarvin, teeja, chaleswan weghaira................ ya phr koi aik din makhsoos kar k koi aik quran ki surat makhsoos kar k perhty hain ye bhi sahi nien....
quran pehrna hay to banda ksi bhi time perh sakta hay es k liye koi din to makhsoos nien hay.
lakin apny ksi dost k liye ya janany waly k liye jo mar chuka hay banda khud to quran ki koi na koi ayat ya surat perh k isaal-e-sawab kar sakta hay.......
حدّثنا أَبُو بَكْرِ بْنُ أَبِي شَيْبَةَ . حَدَّثَنَا عَلِيُّ بْنُ الْحَسَنِ بْنِ شَقِيقٍ ، عَنِ ابْنِ الْمُبَارَكِ ، عَنْ سُلَيْمَانَ التَّيْمِيِّ ، عَنْ أَبِي عُثْمَانَ وَلَيْسَ بِالنَّهْدِيِّ ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، عَنْ مَعْقِلِ بْنِ يَسَارٍ ، قَالَ: قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ: «اِقْرَؤُوهَا عِنْدَ مَوْتَاكُمْ» يَعْنِي يَس. ‏
The Prophet of Allah Said: Recite It (Iqarahu) on ('Inda) the deceased/dying that means Surah Yaseen.
(Sunan Ibn Majah, Kitab Al Janaiz #1448)
The commentator of Sunan Ibn Majah further states:
قوله ( عند موتاكم ) ‏
His saying : On the deceased/dying -- That is to say on the dying or (Aw) after (Ba'ad) death Also.
(Sharh Sunan Ibn Majah Al Sanadi , Ibid)
(حديث مرفوع) أَخْبَرَنَا أَبُو نَصْرٍ عُمَرُ بْنُ عَبْدِ الْعَزِيزِ بْنِ قَتَادَةَ ، أنا أَبُو الْحَسَنِ مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ الْحَسَنِ السَّرَّاجُ ، نا مُطَيَّنٌ ، نا جَعْفَرُ بْنُ حُمَيْدٍ ، نا ابْنُ الْمُبَارَكِ ، عَنِ التَّيْمِيِّ ، عَنْ أَبِي عُثْمَانَ ، وَلَيْسَ بِالنَّهْدِيِّ ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ ، عَنْ مَعْقِلِ بْنِ يَسَارٍ ، قَالَ : قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ : " اقْرَءُوهَا عِنْدَ مَوْتَاكُمْ " ، يَعْنِي يس .
Narrated byMa'qil ibn Yasar al-Muzani
The Prophet (peace be upon him) said, "If anyone recites Ya-Sin out of a desire for Allah's favour, his past sins will be forgiven him; so recite it over those of you who are dying."
Bayhaqi transmitted it in Shu'ab al-Iman.
It is narrated in Sahih Muslim from Amr bin al-Aas (RA) that he said: When you have buried me then stand around my grave for a time in which a Camel could be slaughtered and its meat is distributed, so that I may "ENJOY YOUR COMPANY" and ascertain what answer I can give to the messengers (angels) of Allah.
It is narrated in Abu Dawud and Baihaqi with "HASSAN" chain from Uthman (RA) who said: The Prophet (Peace be upon him) after burying the deceased used to stand (on his side) and say: Ask Allah for his forgivenss and that he should stand firm because he is being questioned.
Imam Shafi'i (rah) and his companions said: To recite something from Quran (at the grave) is recommended, If "KHATAM UL QURAN" is done then it is even better.
It is narrated in Sunnan Baihaqi with "HASSAN CHAIN" that Ibn Umar (ra) considered it Mustahab to recite Beginning and ending Ayahs of Surah Baqarah at the grave after burying [Kitab ul Adhkaar, Page No. 278]
Brother Is mien Aap dekhien khud likha jab insan mar raha ho tab aap surah yaseen padhain yeh nhn likha kay marnay kay baad padhain Point 1 ...

2nd point :- Imam shafi nay kahan pe kaha hai koi refference nhn hai >>

3rd point Kitab ul Adhkar Se refference nhn dain kisi Badi kitab se dain maslan sahi bukhari , sahi muslim , ibn maja , abu daud , tirmizi , Aur last wali point mein aap ne yeh toh kaha kay ibn umar nay kaha per yeh nhn likha hai ibn umar ko kis ne kaha Sahabi bhi apni taraf se deen muqrar nhn karsktay yeh bhi aap ko pata hai jab tak Rasool S.A.W.W Nay kOi Baat nhn kahi woh hum nhn karsaktay .. JazakaALlah[DOUBLEPOST=1354440164][/DOUBLEPOST]
Asalam o alikum to all muslims
Brother mien bhi yehi keh raha hun k aaj kal jo tareeqy rayej hain quran khowani perh k isaal-e-sawab karny k wo sahi nahin jiysa k qul, geyarvin, teeja, chaleswan weghaira................ ya phr koi aik din makhsoos kar k koi aik quran ki surat makhsoos kar k perhty hain ye bhi sahi nien....
quran pehrna hay to banda ksi bhi time perh sakta hay es k liye koi din to makhsoos nien hay.
lakin apny ksi dost k liye ya janany waly k liye jo mar chuka hay banda khud to quran ki koi na koi ayat ya surat perh k isaal-e-sawab kar sakta hay.......
حدّثنا أَبُو بَكْرِ بْنُ أَبِي شَيْبَةَ . حَدَّثَنَا عَلِيُّ بْنُ الْحَسَنِ بْنِ شَقِيقٍ ، عَنِ ابْنِ الْمُبَارَكِ ، عَنْ سُلَيْمَانَ التَّيْمِيِّ ، عَنْ أَبِي عُثْمَانَ وَلَيْسَ بِالنَّهْدِيِّ ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، عَنْ مَعْقِلِ بْنِ يَسَارٍ ، قَالَ: قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ: «اِقْرَؤُوهَا عِنْدَ مَوْتَاكُمْ» يَعْنِي يَس. ‏
The Prophet of Allah Said: Recite It (Iqarahu) on ('Inda) the deceased/dying that means Surah Yaseen.
(Sunan Ibn Majah, Kitab Al Janaiz #1448)
The commentator of Sunan Ibn Majah further states:
قوله ( عند موتاكم ) ‏
His saying : On the deceased/dying -- That is to say on the dying or (Aw) after (Ba'ad) death Also.
(Sharh Sunan Ibn Majah Al Sanadi , Ibid)
(حديث مرفوع) أَخْبَرَنَا أَبُو نَصْرٍ عُمَرُ بْنُ عَبْدِ الْعَزِيزِ بْنِ قَتَادَةَ ، أنا أَبُو الْحَسَنِ مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ الْحَسَنِ السَّرَّاجُ ، نا مُطَيَّنٌ ، نا جَعْفَرُ بْنُ حُمَيْدٍ ، نا ابْنُ الْمُبَارَكِ ، عَنِ التَّيْمِيِّ ، عَنْ أَبِي عُثْمَانَ ، وَلَيْسَ بِالنَّهْدِيِّ ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ ، عَنْ مَعْقِلِ بْنِ يَسَارٍ ، قَالَ : قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ : " اقْرَءُوهَا عِنْدَ مَوْتَاكُمْ " ، يَعْنِي يس .
Narrated byMa'qil ibn Yasar al-Muzani
The Prophet (peace be upon him) said, "If anyone recites Ya-Sin out of a desire for Allah's favour, his past sins will be forgiven him; so recite it over those of you who are dying."
Bayhaqi transmitted it in Shu'ab al-Iman.
It is narrated in Sahih Muslim from Amr bin al-Aas (RA) that he said: When you have buried me then stand around my grave for a time in which a Camel could be slaughtered and its meat is distributed, so that I may "ENJOY YOUR COMPANY" and ascertain what answer I can give to the messengers (angels) of Allah.
It is narrated in Abu Dawud and Baihaqi with "HASSAN" chain from Uthman (RA) who said: The Prophet (Peace be upon him) after burying the deceased used to stand (on his side) and say: Ask Allah for his forgivenss and that he should stand firm because he is being questioned.
Imam Shafi'i (rah) and his companions said: To recite something from Quran (at the grave) is recommended, If "KHATAM UL QURAN" is done then it is even better.
It is narrated in Sunnan Baihaqi with "HASSAN CHAIN" that Ibn Umar (ra) considered it Mustahab to recite Beginning and ending Ayahs of Surah Baqarah at the grave after burying [Kitab ul Adhkaar, Page No. 278]
Farhan bhai arz yeh kay agar saabit nhn toh bas isay chor dena hi behtar hai is kay faiday aur nuksaanaat nhn dekhte jaatay kiun kay Nabi S.A.W.W Nay yeh kam nhn kiya toh hum nay bhi nhn karna bhalay is mein kitne hi faaiday hon bas humien sirf itna kehna hai k simple yeh ke yeh bidat hai ab aap ko bhi clear ho gaya .... Baaki Rahi Baat apni taraf se padhnay ki kisi mayyat ke liye quran toh yeh bhi sabit nhn hai jo sabit hai woh yeh batien aap is thread mein padh lain http://www.tafreehmella.com/threads/mayyat-ko-aisaal-sawaab-kaise-pohnchayien.209384/#post-1844957

Is kay ilawa kuch duyien hain woh aap mayyat ki maghfirat ke liye padh saktay hain baaki quran padhnay ka kahin zikir nhn kiun kay Marnay walay ka is duniya se ab connection khatam ho gaya ab usay hum nekiyan nhn pohncha saktay aur quran padhnay se nekiyan milti hain Aur humien unki maghfirat karwani hai so humien un kay liye dua mangni chaye maghfirat ki and jo duyien batayi hain maghfirat ki woh padhni chaye na kay apni taraf se kuch yeh toh jani aap ko bhi pata hai bidat kitna bada gunnah hai aur hum ya aap ya koi aalim ya koi mufti apni taraf se yeh nhn keh sakta kay quran padh saktay hain halankay humien Huzoor S.A.W.W nhn bataya Toh Aur koi Koun Hota hai humien yeh batanay ya fatwa laganay wala kay aap yeh kam karsktay ho Yeh nichay mene dua behji hai bakshish ki mishkat shareef mein hai aap dekh lijye ga is mein thodi clear image nhn arahi ...... Maghfirat ki dua karnay se aur sadqa karnay se Qabar ki aag thandi hogi aur Murday ko sukoon milega ... JazakaAllah Bro Aap Mazeed tehqeeq karain aur Mufti sahab se puchien kay quran khud padhnay ka bhi refference dain ... Hope aap mind nhn karienge kiun k haq baat kehne se kisi ko rukna nhn chaye aur yeh nhn dekhna chaye ke samnay wala koun hai aur bura toh nhn manayegaa bas haqeeqi dar Allah ka hona chaye kahin woh naraz na ho jaye JazakaAllah @F-iceage

 
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تمام مسلمانوں کو السلامُ علیکم

محترم بھائی ایصال ثواب کے لئےب قرآن پڑھا جائے یا نہیں اس میں علماء کا اختلاف ہے لیکن اس کو بلکل ہی بدعت کہنا ٹھیک نہیں.
یہ بات صحیح ہے کہ آج کل قرآن خوانی کرنے کا یا ایصال ثواب کرنے کے غلط طریقے شروع کر دیے گئے ہیں لیکن اگر کوئی بندہ انفرادی طور پہ اپنے گھر والوں کے کے لئے جو کہ وفات پا چکے ہیں قران کی کوئی سورۃ پڑھتا ہے اور ایصال ثواب کرتا ہے تو یہ تو جائز ہے.
اس بارے میں چند حوالہ جات درج ذیل ہیں.
حدّثنا أَبُو بَكْرِ بْنُ أَبِي شَيْبَةَ . حَدَّثَنَا عَلِيُّ بْنُ الْحَسَنِ بْنِ شَقِيقٍ ، عَنِ ابْنِ الْمُبَارَكِ ، عَنْ سُلَيْمَانَ التَّيْمِيِّ ، عَنْ أَبِي عُثْمَانَ وَلَيْسَ بِالنَّهْدِيِّ ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، عَنْ مَعْقِلِ بْنِ يَسَارٍ ، قَالَ: قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ: «اِقْرَؤُوهَا عِنْدَ مَوْتَاكُمْ» يَعْنِي يَس. ‏
The Prophet of Allah Said: Recite It (Iqarahu) on ('Inda) the deceased/dying that means Surah Yaseen.
(Sunan Ibn Majah, Kitab Al Janaiz #1448)
The commentator of Sunan Ibn Majah further states:
قوله ( عند موتاكم ) ‏
His saying : On the deceased/dying -- That is to say on the dying or (Aw) after (Ba'ad) death Also.
(Sharh Sunan Ibn Majah Al Sanadi , Ibid)
The Prophet said: iqra'u `ala mawtakum ya seen "Read Ya Seen over those of you who are dying/deceased." It is narrated by Abu Dawud in his Sunan (Jana'iz), al-Nasa'i in his Sunan (`Amal al-yawm wal-layla), Ibn Majah in his Sunan (Jana'iz), and Ibn Hibban in his Sahih (Ihsan), and he declared it sound (sahih).
`Abd al-Haqq ibn al-Kharrat al-Ishbili (d. 582) in his book al-`Aqiba (p. 255 #576) said: "The meaning of this hadith may be that the recitation is done over the person at the time the person is dying; or that it be done at his grave." al-Qurtubi said the same according to Suyuti who adds: "I say: the vast majority of the scholars take the former meaning, while Ibn `Abd al-Wahid al-Maqdisi al-Hanbali [and others] take the latter in the monograph he compiled on the topic. Both apply." Sharh al-sudur p. 312. Ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyya in Kitab al-ruh (Madani ed. p. 18-19) also prefers the former meaning ("dying").
Imam Suyuti states in Sharh al-sudur bi sharh hal al-mawta wa al-qubur (p. 310):
There is disagreement as to the reward of recitation reaching to the dead. The vast majority of the Salaf as well as the Three Imams consider that it does reach them, while our Imam, al-Shafi`i, differs. His basis was the verse: wa an laysa li al-insani illa ma sa`a: "Man can have nothing but what he strives for" (53:39). However, the former replied to this objection in several ways:

(a) The verse is abrogated by Allah's saying: wa al-ladhina amanu wa ittaba`athum dhurriyyatuhum: And those who believe and whose families follow them in Faith, -- to them We shall join their families: nor shall We deprive them of the fruit of anything of their works: yet each individual is in pledge for his deeds (52:21). This verse enters the children into Paradise because of the righteousness of the parents.

(b) The verse "Man can have nothing but what he strives for" is specific to Ibrahim's and Musa's nations. As for this Community which has been granted mercy, then it has both what it strove for and what was striven for on its behalf. This is the saying of `Ikrima (Ibn `Abbas's freedman and the transmitter of his Tafsir. Bukhari included 139 of his narrations in his Sahih. He died in Madina in 104).

(c) What is meant by "man" in that verse is the disbeliever. As for the believer, then he has both what he strove for and what was striven for on his behalf. This is the saying of (the Tabi`i) al-Rabi` ibn Anas (d. 139).

(d) Man can have nothing but what he strives for according to divine justice (`adl); as for what comes through divine munificence (fadl), then it is permissible for him that Allah increase him in anything whatsoever. This is the saying of al-Husayn ibn al-Fadl (al-Bajali, one of Bayhaqi's (d. 458) shaykhs. Qurtubi often cites him in his Tafsir).

(e) The meaning of the verse is: "Man will have nothing counted against him except what he strove for."
They used as proof of the reward of recitation reaching to the dead, the analogy of all that is sent in the way of supplication (du`a), charity (sadaqa), fasting (sawm), pilgrimage (hajj), and manumission (`itq): since there is no difference in the transfer of reward whether it is for pilgrimage, charity, endowment (waqf), supplication, or recitation. They have also used the hadiths that will be mentioned, and even if these are weak, yet their collected import is that the donation of reward has a basis in the Law. Another proof they have used is the fact that the Muslims never ceased at any time in history to gather and recite (the Qur'an) for their dead without anyone objecting, and this constitutes consensus (ijma`).
All the above was mentioned by the hadith master (hafiz) Shams al-Din ibn `Abd al-Wahid al-Maqdisi al-Hanbali in a monograph he compiled on the topic. End of Suyuti's words.
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It is narrated in Sunnan Baihaqi with "HASSAN CHAIN" that Ibn Umar (ra) considered it Mustahab to recite Beginning and ending Ayahs of Surah Baqarah at the grave after burying [Kitab ul Adhkaar, Page No. 278]
`Ata' ibn Abi Rabah said: I heard Ibn `Umar say: I heard the Prophet say: "When one of you dies do not tarry, but make haste and take him to his grave, and let someone read at his head the opening of Surat al-Baqara, and at his feet its closure when he lies in the grave." al-Tabarani narrates it in al-Mu`jam al-kabir, but Haythami said in Majma` al-zawa'id (3:44) that the latter's chain contains Yahya ibn `Abd Allah al-Dahhak al-Babalti who is weak. However, the hadith is confirmed by the practice of `Abd Allah ibn `Umar as narrated through sound chains (see below). al-Khallal also narrates the hadith in his al-Amr bi al-ma`ruf (p. 122 #239).
It is related that al-`Ala' ibn al-Lajlaj said to his children: "When you bury me, say as you place me in the side-opening (lahd) of the grave: Bismillah wa `ala millati rasulillah -- In the name of Allah and according to the way of Allah's Messenger -- then flatten the earth over me, and read at the head of my grave the beginning of Surat al-Baqara and its end, for I have seen that Ibn `Umar liked it." Narrated by Bayhaqi in al-Sunan al-Kubra (4:56), Ibn Qudama in al-Mughni (2:474, 2:567, 1994 ed. 2:355), al-Tabarani in al-Kabir, and Haythami said in Majma` al-zawa'id (3:44) that the latter's narrators were all declared trustworthy.
Abu Bakr al-Khallal (d. 311) in al-Amr bi al-ma`ruf (p. 121 #237) relates the above with the following wording: "flatten the earth over me, then read at the head of my grave the Opening of the Book, the beginning of Surat al-Baqara, and its end, for I have heard Ibn `Umar instruct it." Ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyya cites it in Kitab al-ruh (Madani ed. p. 17) from Khallal's narration in al-Jami` but without mention of the Fatiha.
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وقد ذكر عن جماعة من السلف أنهم أوصوا أن يقرأ عند قبورهم وقت الدفن قال عبد الحق يروى أن عبد الله بن عمر أمر أن يقرأ عند قبره سورة البقرة وممن رأى ذلك المعلى بن عبد الرحمن وكان الامام أحمد ينكر ذلك أولا حيث لم يبلغه فيه أثر ثم رجع عن ذلك وقال الخلال في الجامع كتاب القراءة عند القبور اخبرنا العباس بن محمد الدورى حدثنا يحيى بن معين حدثنا مبشر الحلبى حدثني عبد الرحمن بن العلاء بن اللجلاج عن أبيه قال قال أبى إذا أنامت فضعنى في اللحد وقل بسم الله وعلى سنة رسول الله وسن على التراب سنا واقرأ عند رأسى بفاتحة البقرة فإنى سمعت عبد الله بن عمر يقول ذلك


قال عباس الدورى سألت أحمد بن حنبل قلت تحفظ في القراءة على القبر شيئا فقال لا وسألت يحيى ابن معين فحدثنى بهذا الحديث قال الخلال وأخبرني الحسن بن أحمد الوراق حدثنى على بن موسى الحداد وكان صدوقا قال كنت مع أحمد بن حنبل ومحمد بن قدامة الجوهرى في جنازة فلما دفن الميت جلس رجل ضرير يقرأ عند القبر فقال له أحمد يا هذا إن القراءة عند القبر بدعة فلما خرجنا من المقابر قال محمد بن قدامة لأحمد بن حنبل يا أبا عبد الله ما تقول في مبشر الحلبي قال ثقة قال كتبت عنه شيئا قال نعم فأخبرني مبشر عن عبد الرحمن بن العلاء اللجلاج عن أبيه أنه أوصى إذا دفن أن يقرأ عند رأسه بفاتحة البقرة وخاتمتها وقال سمعت ابن عمر يوصي بذلك فقال له أحمد فارجع وقل للرجل يقرأ

وقال الحسن بن الصباح الزعفراني سألت الشافعي عن القراءة عند القبر فقال لا بأس بها


Translation: It is narrated from a group of Islaaf that they advised to recite (Quran) on their graves at the time of burying them. Abdul Haq has narrated that "Ibn Umar (RA) ordered (others) to recite Surah Baqarah on his grave" A'la bin Abdur Rahman also holds the same opinion. Imam Ahmed (rah) did not agree to this in the beginning because proof had not reached him then, "however later he agreed" Ala’ bin Lajlaaj (Radhi Allaho anho) has narrated that his father advised that when he is to be buried you should recite بسم الله وعلى سنة رسول الله and then add dust, after this stand on the side and recite the beginning of Surah al Baqarah, because he heard Ibn Umar (RA) saying this. (Note: The Hadith is traced as Marfu i.e. from Prophet salallaho alaihi wasalam in Al-Kabir of Imam Tabrani, Imam Haythami called all its narrators to be Thiqa in Majma az Zawaid 3:44)...

Abbas Ad-Dori (rah) narrates that he asked Imam Ahmed bin Hanbal if there is any tradition about reciting (Quran) on the graves? (Imam Ahmed) said No! However when Yahya bin Moin (rah) was asked he narrated that he along with Imam Ahmed (rah) and Ibn Quduma (rah) took part in a funeral procession. After burial a blind person started to recite (Quran) on the Qabr, Imam Ahmed said: It is Bidah to recite (Quran) near the grave, however when we left the graveyard ibn Qudama (rah) asked Imam Ahmed (rah) what his stance was on Mubashar al Halbi (rah)? Imam Ahmed said that "HE IS THIQA" (Ibn Qudama) said: Have you taken his narrations? Imam Ahmed said "Yes" at this Ibn Qudama said: Mubashar narrated from Abdur Rahman bin Ala’ bin Lajlaj (RA) … (and he mentioned the same narration as mentioned above), hearing this "IMAM AHMED ASKED TO CALL THE BLIND MAN BACK FOR RECITING (ON THE GRAVE)"

References

►Ibn Qayyim in Kitab ar Ruh, Page Nos. 64-65
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Shawkani in Tuhfat al-dhakirin (p. 229) cited al-Jazari's instruction in al-Hisn al-hasin: "Let one recite over the grave, after burial, the beginning of Surat al-Baqara and its end." This is based on Ibn `Umar's words narrated by Bayhaqi in his Sunan (4:56): "I like that it be read over the grave the beginning of Surat al-Baqara and its end." Shawkani comments: "Nawawi declared its chain fair (hassana isnadahu), and even if it is only Ibn `Umar's saying, such as this is not uttered on the basis of mere opinion. It is possible that because of what he learned of the benefit of such recitation generally speaking, he then deemed it desirable that it be read over the grave due to its merit, in the hope that the deceased benefit from its recitation."
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بها وذكر الخلال عن الشعبي قال كانت الأنصار إذا مات لهم الميت اختلفوا إلى قبره يقرءون عنده القرآن قال وأخبرني أبو يحيى الناقد قال سمعت الحسن بن الجروى يقول مررت على قبر أخت لي فقرأت عندها تبارك لما يذكر فيها فجاءني رجل فقال إنى رأيت أختك في المنام تقول جزى الله أبا على خيرا فقد انتفعت بما قرأ أخبرني الحسن بن الهيثم قال سمعت أبا بكر بن الأطروش ابن بنت أبي نصر بن التمار يقول كان رجل يجيء إلى قبر أمه يوم الجمعة فيقرأ سورة يس فجاء في بعض أيامه فقرأ سورة يس ثم قال اللهم إن كنت قسمت لهذه السورة ثوابا فاجعله في أهل هذه المقابر فلما كان يوم الجمعة التي تليها جاءت امرأة فقالت أنت فلان ابن فلانة قال نعم قالت إن بنتا لي ماتت فرأيتها في النوم جالسة على شفير قبرها فقلت ما أجلسك ها هنا فقالت إن فلان ابن فلانة جاء إلى قبر أمه فقرأ سورة يس وجعل ثوابها لأهل المقابر فأصابنا من روح ذلك أو غفر لنا أو نحو ذلك

Translation: Hassan bin Jarvi (rah) has narrated that he recited Surah al-Mulk at the grave of his sister. A person came to him and said that he saw his sister in dream who said: May Allah give Jaza (to my brother) because his Qir’at has been of benefit to me. One person used to recite Surah Yasin at the grave of his mother every Friday.

Once he recited Surah Yasin and made a dua: O Allah If in your sight this Surah is a source of Thawaab to others then grant Thawaab to all those buried in this graveyard. Next Friday a woman came to him and asked: Are you son of so and so, at which he said Yes. She replied: One of my daughters has recently passed away, I saw her in dream that she is sitting at the corner of her grave, I asked why she was sitting there? She took your name and said that you had came to recite Surah Yasi after which you denoted Thawaab to all of those who are buried, out of this we received thawaab too.

Reference: Ibn Qayyim in Kitab ar Ruh page 17,18
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علامہ ابن تیمیہ رحمہ اللہ کا ایک قول اس بارے میں علامہ قرطبی رحمہ اللہ نے اپنی کتاب التذکرۃ میں ذکر کیا ہے جس کا مفہوم ہے کہ
” مسلمین کی موت پہ ان کو مالی اور بدنی عبادات کا ثواب پہنچانا امام احمد رحمہ اللہ، امام ابو حنیفہ رحمہ اللہ کے نزدیک اور امام مالک رحمہ اللہ اور امام شافعی رحمہ اللہ کے کچھ اصحاب کے نزدیک جائز ہے“( کتاب التذکرۃ جلد 1 صفحہ 278)
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mujhy ye sab parh k thora ajeb laga......
it was hard for me to decide k ye ghalat ha ya sahi.........

bt phr kuch din pehle ak jaga likhi kuch baatin yaad agin......
let me share it with you guys.......


ak jagah behes ho rahi thi
ak group keh raha tha k Hijab krne me chehra chupana jaiz ha
dosra keh raha tha k chehra chupana zarori nahi.....

jb behes urooj pe pohnch gai
to ak khatoon ne kaha k is baat pe to dono mutafik hain na k HIJAB KRNA JAIZ HA OR SAWAB KA KAAM HA......
to ap apni taraf se chehra chupao.... neki samajh k or yaad rakho wo day of judgment jb hum ak ak neki to tarsain ge k kash hum ne ye kar li hoti..........

to same like this Question.......
Quran parhna to sawab ha na......... is behas me mat paro k apne wafat pae hoe walidain k lye nai parh sakty....... ya parh sakty hain.....
ye socho k ye ak neki ha........

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Farhan bhai arz yeh kay agar saabit nhn toh bas isay chor dena hi behtar hai is kay faiday aur nuksaanaat nhn dekhte jaatay kiun kay Nabi S.A.W.W Nay yeh kam nhn kiya toh hum nay bhi nhn karna bhalay is mein kitne hi faaiday hon bas humien sirf itna kehna hai k simple yeh ke yeh bidat hai ab aap ko bhi clear ho gaya .... Baaki Rahi Baat apni taraf se padhnay ki kisi mayyat ke liye quran toh yeh bhi sabit nhn hai jo sabit hai woh yeh batien aap is thread mein padh lain http://www.tafreehmella.com/threads/mayyat-ko-aisaal-sawaab-kaise-pohnchayien.209384/#post-1844957

Is kay ilawa kuch duyien hain woh aap mayyat ki maghfirat ke liye padh saktay hain baaki quran padhnay ka kahin zikir nhn kiun kay Marnay walay ka is duniya se ab connection khatam ho gaya ab usay hum nekiyan nhn pohncha saktay aur quran padhnay se nekiyan milti hain Aur humien unki maghfirat karwani hai so humien un kay liye dua mangni chaye maghfirat ki and jo duyien batayi hain maghfirat ki woh padhni chaye na kay apni taraf se kuch yeh toh jani aap ko bhi pata hai bidat kitna bada gunnah hai aur hum ya aap ya koi aalim ya koi mufti apni taraf se yeh nhn keh sakta kay quran padh saktay hain halankay humien Huzoor S.A.W.W nhn bataya Toh Aur koi Koun Hota hai humien yeh batanay ya fatwa laganay wala kay aap yeh kam karsktay ho Yeh nichay mene dua behji hai bakshish ki mishkat shareef mein hai aap dekh lijye ga is mein thodi clear image nhn arahi ...... Maghfirat ki dua karnay se aur sadqa karnay se Qabar ki aag thandi hogi aur Murday ko sukoon milega ... JazakaAllah Bro Aap Mazeed tehqeeq karain aur Mufti sahab se puchien kay quran khud padhnay ka bhi refference dain ... Hope aap mind nhn karienge kiun k haq baat kehne se kisi ko rukna nhn chaye aur yeh nhn dekhna chaye ke samnay wala koun hai aur bura toh nhn manayegaa bas haqeeqi dar Allah ka hona chaye kahin woh naraz na ho jaye JazakaAllah @F-iceage

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Farhan bhai arz yeh kay agar saabit nhn toh bas isay chor dena hi behtar hai is kay faiday aur nuksaanaat nhn dekhte jaatay kiun kay Nabi S.A.W.W Nay yeh kam nhn kiya toh hum nay bhi nhn karna bhalay is mein kitne hi faaiday hon bas humien sirf itna kehna hai k simple yeh ke yeh bidat hai ab aap ko bhi clear ho gaya .... Baaki Rahi Baat apni taraf se padhnay ki kisi mayyat ke liye quran toh yeh bhi sabit nhn hai jo sabit hai woh yeh batien aap is thread mein padh lain http://www.tafreehmella.com/threads/mayyat-ko-aisaal-sawaab-kaise-pohnchayien.209384/#post-1844957

Is kay ilawa kuch duyien hain woh aap mayyat ki maghfirat ke liye padh saktay hain baaki quran padhnay ka kahin zikir nhn kiun kay Marnay walay ka is duniya se ab connection khatam ho gaya ab usay hum nekiyan nhn pohncha saktay aur quran padhnay se nekiyan milti hain Aur humien unki maghfirat karwani hai so humien un kay liye dua mangni chaye maghfirat ki and jo duyien batayi hain maghfirat ki woh padhni chaye na kay apni taraf se kuch yeh toh jani aap ko bhi pata hai bidat kitna bada gunnah hai aur hum ya aap ya koi aalim ya koi mufti apni taraf se yeh nhn keh sakta kay quran padh saktay hain halankay humien Huzoor S.A.W.W nhn bataya Toh Aur koi Koun Hota hai humien yeh batanay ya fatwa laganay wala kay aap yeh kam karsktay ho Yeh nichay mene dua behji hai bakshish ki mishkat shareef mein hai aap dekh lijye ga is mein thodi clear image nhn arahi ...... Maghfirat ki dua karnay se aur sadqa karnay se Qabar ki aag thandi hogi aur Murday ko sukoon milega ... JazakaAllah Bro Aap Mazeed tehqeeq karain aur Mufti sahab se puchien kay quran khud padhnay ka bhi refference dain ... Hope aap mind nhn karienge kiun k haq baat kehne se kisi ko rukna nhn chaye aur yeh nhn dekhna chaye ke samnay wala koun hai aur bura toh nhn manayegaa bas haqeeqi dar Allah ka hona chaye kahin woh naraz na ho jaye JazakaAllah @F-iceage

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Brother Is mien Aap dekhien khud likha jab insan mar raha ho tab aap surah yaseen padhain yeh nhn likha kay marnay kay baad padhain Point 1 ...

2nd point :- Imam shafi nay kahan pe kaha hai koi refference nhn hai >>

3rd point Kitab ul Adhkar Se refference nhn dain kisi Badi kitab se dain maslan sahi bukhari , sahi muslim , ibn maja , abu daud , tirmizi , Aur last wali point mein aap ne yeh toh kaha kay ibn umar nay kaha per yeh nhn likha hai ibn umar ko kis ne kaha Sahabi bhi apni taraf se deen muqrar nhn karsktay yeh bhi aap ko pata hai jab tak Rasool S.A.W.W Nay kOi Baat nhn kahi woh hum nhn karsaktay .. JazakaALlah[DOUBLEPOST=1354440164][/DOUBLEPOST]

Farhan bhai arz yeh kay agar saabit nhn toh bas isay chor dena hi behtar hai is kay faiday aur nuksaanaat nhn dekhte jaatay kiun kay Nabi S.A.W.W Nay yeh kam nhn kiya toh hum nay bhi nhn karna bhalay is mein kitne hi faaiday hon bas humien sirf itna kehna hai k simple yeh ke yeh bidat hai ab aap ko bhi clear ho gaya .... Baaki Rahi Baat apni taraf se padhnay ki kisi mayyat ke liye quran toh yeh bhi sabit nhn hai jo sabit hai woh yeh batien aap is thread mein padh lain http://www.tafreehmella.com/threads/mayyat-ko-aisaal-sawaab-kaise-pohnchayien.209384/#post-1844957

Is kay ilawa kuch duyien hain woh aap mayyat ki maghfirat ke liye padh saktay hain baaki quran padhnay ka kahin zikir nhn kiun kay Marnay walay ka is duniya se ab connection khatam ho gaya ab usay hum nekiyan nhn pohncha saktay aur quran padhnay se nekiyan milti hain Aur humien unki maghfirat karwani hai so humien un kay liye dua mangni chaye maghfirat ki and jo duyien batayi hain maghfirat ki woh padhni chaye na kay apni taraf se kuch yeh toh jani aap ko bhi pata hai bidat kitna bada gunnah hai aur hum ya aap ya koi aalim ya koi mufti apni taraf se yeh nhn keh sakta kay quran padh saktay hain halankay humien Huzoor S.A.W.W nhn bataya Toh Aur koi Koun Hota hai humien yeh batanay ya fatwa laganay wala kay aap yeh kam karsktay ho Yeh nichay mene dua behji hai bakshish ki mishkat shareef mein hai aap dekh lijye ga is mein thodi clear image nhn arahi ...... Maghfirat ki dua karnay se aur sadqa karnay se Qabar ki aag thandi hogi aur Murday ko sukoon milega ... JazakaAllah Bro Aap Mazeed tehqeeq karain aur Mufti sahab se puchien kay quran khud padhnay ka bhi refference dain ... Hope aap mind nhn karienge kiun k haq baat kehne se kisi ko rukna nhn chaye aur yeh nhn dekhna chaye ke samnay wala koun hai aur bura toh nhn manayegaa bas haqeeqi dar Allah ka hona chaye kahin woh naraz na ho jaye JazakaAllah @F-iceage

lekin bro Qabar pe ja k jo yaseen sharif parte hen wo b jaiz ni hai kia ? esa to khud mene apne abbu ko b kai dafa krte dekha hai & dosri surten waghera b parte hen to wo b to Qur'aan hena ?
 
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lekin bro Qabar pe ja k jo yaseen sharif parte hen wo b jaiz ni hai kia ? esa to khud mene apne abbu ko b kai dafa krte dekha hai & dosri surten waghera b parte hen to wo b to Qur'aan hena ?
Jani Jab Quran padhna mayat per jayez hi nhn toh zahir qabar per jakar padhna bhi jayez nhn hoga na .... thodi aap study karo sahi bukhari , sahi muslim , abu daood tirmizi aap ko kahin bhi quran padhnay ki hadees nhn milegi aur yeh toh aap ko bhi pata hai yeh hadees kay sab se baday kitab hain aur is mein her hadees hoti hai sahi muslim and sahi bukhari mein toh koi bhi hadees zaeef nhn ... Abu daood aur tirmizi mein kuch zaeef hoti hadeesien hoti hain woh sirf aalim hi bata sakta hai ke kounsi hadees zaeef hai kounsi nhn .. So aap sahi bukhari and sahi muslim ki study karo mein aap ko online dono ka link send karta hun ...[DOUBLEPOST=1354466037][/DOUBLEPOST]
lekin bro Qabar pe ja k jo yaseen sharif parte hen wo b jaiz ni hai kia ? esa to khud mene apne abbu ko b kai dafa krte dekha hai & dosri surten waghera b parte hen to wo b to Qur'aan hena ?
Huzoor S.A.W.W ka irshad hai Apnay gharon ko qabrustan na banao aur quran padhtay raha karo apnay gharon mein ....
 
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Jani Jab Quran padhna mayat per jayez hi nhn toh zahir qabar per jakar padhna bhi jayez nhn hoga na .... thodi aap study karo sahi bukhari , sahi muslim , abu daood tirmizi aap ko kahin bhi quran padhnay ki hadees nhn milegi aur yeh toh aap ko bhi pata hai yeh hadees kay sab se baday kitab hain aur is mein her hadees hoti hai sahi muslim and sahi bukhari mein toh koi bhi hadees zaeef nhn ... Abu daood aur tirmizi mein kuch zaeef hoti hadeesien hoti hain woh sirf aalim hi bata sakta hai ke kounsi hadees zaeef hai kounsi nhn .. So aap sahi bukhari and sahi muslim ki study karo mein aap ko online dono ka link send karta hun ...[DOUBLEPOST=1354466037][/DOUBLEPOST]

Huzoor S.A.W.W ka irshad hai Apnay gharon ko qabrustan na banao aur quran padhtay raha karo apnay gharon mein ....
chalen is k baare mai b pochenge...
 
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mujhy ye sab parh k thora ajeb laga......
it was hard for me to decide k ye ghalat ha ya sahi.........

bt phr kuch din pehle ak jaga likhi kuch baatin yaad agin......
let me share it with you guys.......


ak jagah behes ho rahi thi
ak group keh raha tha k Hijab krne me chehra chupana jaiz ha
dosra keh raha tha k chehra chupana zarori nahi.....

jb behes urooj pe pohnch gai
to ak khatoon ne kaha k is baat pe to dono mutafik hain na k HIJAB KRNA JAIZ HA OR SAWAB KA KAAM HA......
to ap apni taraf se chehra chupao.... neki samajh k or yaad rakho wo day of judgment jb hum ak ak neki to tarsain ge k kash hum ne ye kar li hoti..........

to same like this Question.......
Quran parhna to sawab ha na......... is behas me mat paro k apne wafat pae hoe walidain k lye nai parh sakty....... ya parh sakty hain.....
ye socho k ye ak neki ha........

bs........
Behna hum hijaab ko quran khuwani se nhn joud saktay woh aik alag lambi behs hai .... Idher baat ho rahi hai bidat hai ya nhn ..

Bidat ki simple defination hai Kay Her Woh kaam jo sawab ke liye kiya jaye but Us kaam ka Allah aur Rasool S.A.W.W Nay hukum na diya ho ya ishara na kiya ho ya khud kiya na ho Woh bidat hai ... Quran mayyat per padhna ya quran khuwani karna dono Huzoor S.A.W.W se sabit nhn hai Toh Iska Matlab Ab Kiya huwa ?? Aik Aam insaan is asaan baat ka matlab bata sakta hai araam se ... JazakaAllah[DOUBLEPOST=1354466525][/DOUBLEPOST]
chalen is k baare mai b pochenge...
Please Aap Puchien aur refference mangien mere bhai ... Jab hum duniya vi taleem hasil kartay hain toh teacher humien books mein her chiz ki defination dikhatay hain ya batatay hain ke yeh falan cheez idher hogi aap padh lijye ga ya internet per idher padhi hai aur is writer ne likhi hai sahi , Toh Deeni taleem mein hum kiun is tarah kartay hain ke Bas kisi ne batayi aur hum nay maan li us mein humien pooori akhri had tak jakar tehqeeq karni chaye because duniya vi taleem toh mamoooli hai per deeeni taleem mamooli hai aur duniya vi taleem toh khatam ho jaye jab hum mar jayeinge toh per deeni taleem hi hamaray kaam aye gi agay so please Meri request hai agar aap kisi se koi baat puchte hain toh pooora us ka refference maangay aaj kal woh dour nhn raha brother ...
 
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تمام مسلمانوں کو السلامُ علیکم
محترم بھائی ایصال ثواب کے لئےب قرآن پڑھا جائے یا نہیں اس میں علماء کا اختلاف ہے لیکن اس کو بلکل ہی بدعت کہنا ٹھیک نہیں.
یہ بات صحیح ہے کہ آج کل قرآن خوانی کرنے کا یا ایصال ثواب کرنے کے غلط طریقے شروع کر دیے گئے ہیں لیکن اگر کوئی بندہ انفرادی طور پہ اپنے گھر والوں کے کے لئے جو کہ وفات پا چکے ہیں قران کی کوئی سورۃ پڑھتا ہے اور ایصال ثواب کرتا ہے تو یہ تو جائز ہے.
اس بارے میں چند حوالہ جات درج ذیل ہیں.
حدّثنا أَبُو بَكْرِ بْنُ أَبِي شَيْبَةَ . حَدَّثَنَا عَلِيُّ بْنُ الْحَسَنِ بْنِ شَقِيقٍ ، عَنِ ابْنِ الْمُبَارَكِ ، عَنْ سُلَيْمَانَ التَّيْمِيِّ ، عَنْ أَبِي عُثْمَانَ وَلَيْسَ بِالنَّهْدِيِّ ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، عَنْ مَعْقِلِ بْنِ يَسَارٍ ، قَالَ: قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ: «اِقْرَؤُوهَا عِنْدَ مَوْتَاكُمْ» يَعْنِي يَس. ‏
The Prophet of Allah Said: Recite It (Iqarahu) on ('Inda) the deceased/dying that means Surah Yaseen.
(Sunan Ibn Majah, Kitab Al Janaiz #1448)
The commentator of Sunan Ibn Majah further states:
قوله ( عند موتاكم ) ‏
His saying : On the deceased/dying -- That is to say on the dying or (Aw) after (Ba'ad) death Also.
(Sharh Sunan Ibn Majah Al Sanadi , Ibid)
The Prophet said: iqra'u `ala mawtakum ya seen "Read Ya Seen over those of you who are dying/deceased." It is narrated by Abu Dawud in his Sunan (Jana'iz), al-Nasa'i in his Sunan (`Amal al-yawm wal-layla), Ibn Majah in his Sunan (Jana'iz), and Ibn Hibban in his Sahih (Ihsan), and he declared it sound (sahih).
`Abd al-Haqq ibn al-Kharrat al-Ishbili (d. 582) in his book al-`Aqiba (p. 255 #576) said: "The meaning of this hadith may be that the recitation is done over the person at the time the person is dying; or that it be done at his grave." al-Qurtubi said the same according to Suyuti who adds: "I say: the vast majority of the scholars take the former meaning, while Ibn `Abd al-Wahid al-Maqdisi al-Hanbali [and others] take the latter in the monograph he compiled on the topic. Both apply." Sharh al-sudur p. 312. Ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyya in Kitab al-ruh (Madani ed. p. 18-19) also prefers the former meaning ("dying").
Imam Suyuti states in Sharh al-sudur bi sharh hal al-mawta wa al-qubur (p. 310):
There is disagreement as to the reward of recitation reaching to the dead. The vast majority of the Salaf as well as the Three Imams consider that it does reach them, while our Imam, al-Shafi`i, differs. His basis was the verse: wa an laysa li al-insani illa ma sa`a: "Man can have nothing but what he strives for" (53:39). However, the former replied to this objection in several ways:
(a) The verse is abrogated by Allah's saying: wa al-ladhina amanu wa ittaba`athum dhurriyyatuhum: And those who believe and whose families follow them in Faith, -- to them We shall join their families: nor shall We deprive them of the fruit of anything of their works: yet each individual is in pledge for his deeds (52:21). This verse enters the children into Paradise because of the righteousness of the parents.
(b) The verse "Man can have nothing but what he strives for" is specific to Ibrahim's and Musa's nations. As for this Community which has been granted mercy, then it has both what it strove for and what was striven for on its behalf. This is the saying of `Ikrima (Ibn `Abbas's freedman and the transmitter of his Tafsir. Bukhari included 139 of his narrations in his Sahih. He died in Madina in 104).
(c) What is meant by "man" in that verse is the disbeliever. As for the believer, then he has both what he strove for and what was striven for on his behalf. This is the saying of (the Tabi`i) al-Rabi` ibn Anas (d. 139).
(d) Man can have nothing but what he strives for according to divine justice (`adl); as for what comes through divine munificence (fadl), then it is permissible for him that Allah increase him in anything whatsoever. This is the saying of al-Husayn ibn al-Fadl (al-Bajali, one of Bayhaqi's (d. 458) shaykhs. Qurtubi often cites him in his Tafsir).
(e) The meaning of the verse is: "Man will have nothing counted against him except what he strove for."
They used as proof of the reward of recitation reaching to the dead, the analogy of all that is sent in the way of supplication (du`a), charity (sadaqa), fasting (sawm), pilgrimage (hajj), and manumission (`itq): since there is no difference in the transfer of reward whether it is for pilgrimage, charity, endowment (waqf), supplication, or recitation. They have also used the hadiths that will be mentioned, and even if these are weak, yet their collected import is that the donation of reward has a basis in the Law. Another proof they have used is the fact that the Muslims never ceased at any time in history to gather and recite (the Qur'an) for their dead without anyone objecting, and this constitutes consensus (ijma`).
All the above was mentioned by the hadith master (hafiz) Shams al-Din ibn `Abd al-Wahid al-Maqdisi al-Hanbali in a monograph he compiled on the topic. End of Suyuti's words.

It is narrated in Sunnan Baihaqi with "HASSAN CHAIN" that Ibn Umar (ra) considered it Mustahab to recite Beginning and ending Ayahs of Surah Baqarah at the grave after burying [Kitab ul Adhkaar, Page No. 278]
`Ata' ibn Abi Rabah said: I heard Ibn `Umar say: I heard the Prophet say: "When one of you dies do not tarry, but make haste and take him to his grave, and let someone read at his head the opening of Surat al-Baqara, and at his feet its closure when he lies in the grave." al-Tabarani narrates it in al-Mu`jam al-kabir, but Haythami said in Majma` al-zawa'id (3:44) that the latter's chain contains Yahya ibn `Abd Allah al-Dahhak al-Babalti who is weak. However, the hadith is confirmed by the practice of `Abd Allah ibn `Umar as narrated through sound chains (see below). al-Khallal also narrates the hadith in his al-Amr bi al-ma`ruf (p. 122 #239).
It is related that al-`Ala' ibn al-Lajlaj said to his children: "When you bury me, say as you place me in the side-opening (lahd) of the grave: Bismillah wa `ala millati rasulillah -- In the name of Allah and according to the way of Allah's Messenger -- then flatten the earth over me, and read at the head of my grave the beginning of Surat al-Baqara and its end, for I have seen that Ibn `Umar liked it." Narrated by Bayhaqi in al-Sunan al-Kubra (4:56), Ibn Qudama in al-Mughni (2:474, 2:567, 1994 ed. 2:355), al-Tabarani in al-Kabir, and Haythami said in Majma` al-zawa'id (3:44) that the latter's narrators were all declared trustworthy.
Abu Bakr al-Khallal (d. 311) in al-Amr bi al-ma`ruf (p. 121 #237) relates the above with the following wording: "flatten the earth over me, then read at the head of my grave the Opening of the Book, the beginning of Surat al-Baqara, and its end, for I have heard Ibn `Umar instruct it." Ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyya cites it in Kitab al-ruh (Madani ed. p. 17) from Khallal's narration in al-Jami` but without mention of the Fatiha.
وقد ذكر عن جماعة من السلف أنهم أوصوا أن يقرأ عند قبورهم وقت الدفن قال عبد الحق يروى أن عبد الله بن عمر أمر أن يقرأ عند قبره سورة البقرة وممن رأى ذلك المعلى بن عبد الرحمن وكان الامام أحمد ينكر ذلك أولا حيث لم يبلغه فيه أثر ثم رجع عن ذلك وقال الخلال في الجامع كتاب القراءة عند القبور اخبرنا العباس بن محمد الدورى حدثنا يحيى بن معين حدثنا مبشر الحلبى حدثني عبد الرحمن بن العلاء بن اللجلاج عن أبيه قال قال أبى إذا أنامت فضعنى في اللحد وقل بسم الله وعلى سنة رسول الله وسن على التراب سنا واقرأ عند رأسى بفاتحة البقرة فإنى سمعت عبد الله بن عمر يقول ذلك
قال عباس الدورى سألت أحمد بن حنبل قلت تحفظ في القراءة على القبر شيئا فقال لا وسألت يحيى ابن معين فحدثنى بهذا الحديث قال الخلال وأخبرني الحسن بن أحمد الوراق حدثنى على بن موسى الحداد وكان صدوقا قال كنت مع أحمد بن حنبل ومحمد بن قدامة الجوهرى في جنازة فلما دفن الميت جلس رجل ضرير يقرأ عند القبر فقال له أحمد يا هذا إن القراءة عند القبر بدعة فلما خرجنا من المقابر قال محمد بن قدامة لأحمد بن حنبل يا أبا عبد الله ما تقول في مبشر الحلبي قال ثقة قال كتبت عنه شيئا قال نعم فأخبرني مبشر عن عبد الرحمن بن العلاء اللجلاج عن أبيه أنه أوصى إذا دفن أن يقرأ عند رأسه بفاتحة البقرة وخاتمتها وقال سمعت ابن عمر يوصي بذلك فقال له أحمد فارجع وقل للرجل يقرأ
وقال الحسن بن الصباح الزعفراني سألت الشافعي عن القراءة عند القبر فقال لا بأس بها
Translation: It is narrated from a group of Islaaf that they advised to recite (Quran) on their graves at the time of burying them. Abdul Haq has narrated that "Ibn Umar (RA) ordered (others) to recite Surah Baqarah on his grave" A'la bin Abdur Rahman also holds the same opinion. Imam Ahmed (rah) did not agree to this in the beginning because proof had not reached him then, "however later he agreed" Ala’ bin Lajlaaj (Radhi Allaho anho) has narrated that his father advised that when he is to be buried you should recite بسم الله وعلى سنة رسول الله and then add dust, after this stand on the side and recite the beginning of Surah al Baqarah, because he heard Ibn Umar (RA) saying this. (Note: The Hadith is traced as Marfu i.e. from Prophet salallaho alaihi wasalam in Al-Kabir of Imam Tabrani, Imam Haythami called all its narrators to be Thiqa in Majma az Zawaid 3:44)...
Abbas Ad-Dori (rah) narrates that he asked Imam Ahmed bin Hanbal if there is any tradition about reciting (Quran) on the graves? (Imam Ahmed) said No! However when Yahya bin Moin (rah) was asked he narrated that he along with Imam Ahmed (rah) and Ibn Quduma (rah) took part in a funeral procession. After burial a blind person started to recite (Quran) on the Qabr, Imam Ahmed said: It is Bidah to recite (Quran) near the grave, however when we left the graveyard ibn Qudama (rah) asked Imam Ahmed (rah) what his stance was on Mubashar al Halbi (rah)? Imam Ahmed said that "HE IS THIQA" (Ibn Qudama) said: Have you taken his narrations? Imam Ahmed said "Yes" at this Ibn Qudama said: Mubashar narrated from Abdur Rahman bin Ala’ bin Lajlaj (RA) … (and he mentioned the same narration as mentioned above), hearing this "IMAM AHMED ASKED TO CALL THE BLIND MAN BACK FOR RECITING (ON THE GRAVE)"
References
►Ibn Qayyim in Kitab ar Ruh, Page Nos. 64-65
Shawkani in Tuhfat al-dhakirin (p. 229) cited al-Jazari's instruction in al-Hisn al-hasin: "Let one recite over the grave, after burial, the beginning of Surat al-Baqara and its end." This is based on Ibn `Umar's words narrated by Bayhaqi in his Sunan (4:56): "I like that it be read over the grave the beginning of Surat al-Baqara and its end." Shawkani comments: "Nawawi declared its chain fair (hassana isnadahu), and even if it is only Ibn `Umar's saying, such as this is not uttered on the basis of mere opinion. It is possible that because of what he learned of the benefit of such recitation generally speaking, he then deemed it desirable that it be read over the grave due to its merit, in the hope that the deceased benefit from its recitation."
بها وذكر الخلال عن الشعبي قال كانت الأنصار إذا مات لهم الميت اختلفوا إلى قبره يقرءون عنده القرآن قال وأخبرني أبو يحيى الناقد قال سمعت الحسن بن الجروى يقول مررت على قبر أخت لي فقرأت عندها تبارك لما يذكر فيها فجاءني رجل فقال إنى رأيت أختك في المنام تقول جزى الله أبا على خيرا فقد انتفعت بما قرأ أخبرني الحسن بن الهيثم قال سمعت أبا بكر بن الأطروش ابن بنت أبي نصر بن التمار يقول كان رجل يجيء إلى قبر أمه يوم الجمعة فيقرأ سورة يس فجاء في بعض أيامه فقرأ سورة يس ثم قال اللهم إن كنت قسمت لهذه السورة ثوابا فاجعله في أهل هذه المقابر فلما كان يوم الجمعة التي تليها جاءت امرأة فقالت أنت فلان ابن فلانة قال نعم قالت إن بنتا لي ماتت فرأيتها في النوم جالسة على شفير قبرها فقلت ما أجلسك ها هنا فقالت إن فلان ابن فلانة جاء إلى قبر أمه فقرأ سورة يس وجعل ثوابها لأهل المقابر فأصابنا من روح ذلك أو غفر لنا أو نحو ذلك
Translation: Hassan bin Jarvi (rah) has narrated that he recited Surah al-Mulk at the grave of his sister. A person came to him and said that he saw his sister in dream who said: May Allah give Jaza (to my brother) because his Qir’at has been of benefit to me. One person used to recite Surah Yasin at the grave of his mother every Friday.
Once he recited Surah Yasin and made a dua: O Allah If in your sight this Surah is a source of Thawaab to others then grant Thawaab to all those buried in this graveyard. Next Friday a woman came to him and asked: Are you son of so and so, at which he said Yes. She replied: One of my daughters has recently passed away, I saw her in dream that she is sitting at the corner of her grave, I asked why she was sitting there? She took your name and said that you had came to recite Surah Yasi after which you denoted Thawaab to all of those who are buried, out of this we received thawaab too.
Reference: Ibn Qayyim in Kitab ar Ruh page 17,18
علامہ ابن تیمیہ رحمہ اللہ کا ایک قول اس بارے میں علامہ قرطبی رحمہ اللہ نے اپنی کتاب التذکرۃ میں ذکر کیا ہے جس کا مفہوم ہے کہ
” مسلمین کی موت پہ ان کو مالی اور بدنی عبادات کا ثواب پہنچانا امام احمد رحمہ اللہ، امام ابو حنیفہ رحمہ اللہ کے نزدیک اور امام مالک رحمہ اللہ اور امام شافعی رحمہ اللہ کے کچھ اصحاب کے نزدیک جائز ہے“( کتاب التذکرۃ جلد 1 صفحہ 278)
Wa'alaikumussalaam mere pyaare Mohsin bhai jan
subse pehle arz karun ke aapka post kisi thread mein eik
waqt baad dekha to khushi huwi aapka post yahan dekh kar
yahaan aap ne ibtida mein jo hadeeth peish kiya hai
uska urdu tarjuma share kar dengen to
aapka shukrguzar rahunga : )

aur aap ne yahaan apne dalaiyl mein ye saabit
karne ki bharpoor koshish ki hai ke ehl e hadeeth naami firqe ke
nazdeek bhi amal e eisaal e sawab az Quran khwaani durust hai
magar is tarah ke dalaaiyl peish nahin kiye ke RASOOLALLAH saww
ne farmaaya hai eisaal e sawab ke liye Quran khwaani jaaiyz hai
ya iska hukm farmaaya ya phir Sahaba r.a ne is per amal kiya

ya phir yeh muaamla youn hai ke aap ne angrezi zabaan mein sharing ki hai
aur mein angrezi mein kamzour hoon so aap mere liye eik kaam karen
Ibn e Taiymiya r.a ne kya kaha baqiya ne kya kaha is nuqte se door ho kar
apne is ISLAMI bhai ke liye RASOOLALLAH saww ke sahih ahadeeth se

"QURAN KHWAANI fout shuda bande ke eisaal e sawaab ke liye"

is nuqte per peish karen aapka shukrguzaar rahunga
aur haan ye tanziya post nahin balke dar haqeeqi taur per mera aap se mutaliba
aur aap se guzaarish hai is nuqte per sahih ahadeeth peish karne ki aur bilkul
behes tanziya lehje mein nahin plzz khush iqhlaaqi se theek hai bhai ??

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تمام مسلمانوں کو السلامُ علیکم
محترم بھائی ایصال ثواب کے لئےب قرآن پڑھا جائے یا نہیں اس میں علماء کا اختلاف ہے لیکن اس کو بلکل ہی بدعت کہنا ٹھیک نہیں.
یہ بات صحیح ہے کہ آج کل قرآن خوانی کرنے کا یا ایصال ثواب کرنے کے غلط طریقے شروع کر دیے گئے ہیں لیکن اگر کوئی بندہ انفرادی طور پہ اپنے گھر والوں کے کے لئے جو کہ وفات پا چکے ہیں قران کی کوئی سورۃ پڑھتا ہے اور ایصال ثواب کرتا ہے تو یہ تو جائز ہے.
اس بارے میں چند حوالہ جات درج ذیل ہیں.
حدّثنا أَبُو بَكْرِ بْنُ أَبِي شَيْبَةَ . حَدَّثَنَا عَلِيُّ بْنُ الْحَسَنِ بْنِ شَقِيقٍ ، عَنِ ابْنِ الْمُبَارَكِ ، عَنْ سُلَيْمَانَ التَّيْمِيِّ ، عَنْ أَبِي عُثْمَانَ وَلَيْسَ بِالنَّهْدِيِّ ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، عَنْ مَعْقِلِ بْنِ يَسَارٍ ، قَالَ: قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ: «اِقْرَؤُوهَا عِنْدَ مَوْتَاكُمْ» يَعْنِي يَس. ‏
The Prophet of Allah Said: Recite It (Iqarahu) on ('Inda) the deceased/dying that means Surah Yaseen.
(Sunan Ibn Majah, Kitab Al Janaiz #1448)
The commentator of Sunan Ibn Majah further states:
قوله ( عند موتاكم ) ‏
His saying : On the deceased/dying -- That is to say on the dying or (Aw) after (Ba'ad) death Also.
(Sharh Sunan Ibn Majah Al Sanadi , Ibid)
The Prophet said: iqra'u `ala mawtakum ya seen "Read Ya Seen over those of you who are dying/deceased." It is narrated by Abu Dawud in his Sunan (Jana'iz), al-Nasa'i in his Sunan (`Amal al-yawm wal-layla), Ibn Majah in his Sunan (Jana'iz), and Ibn Hibban in his Sahih (Ihsan), and he declared it sound (sahih).
`Abd al-Haqq ibn al-Kharrat al-Ishbili (d. 582) in his book al-`Aqiba (p. 255 #576) said: "The meaning of this hadith may be that the recitation is done over the person at the time the person is dying; or that it be done at his grave." al-Qurtubi said the same according to Suyuti who adds: "I say: the vast majority of the scholars take the former meaning, while Ibn `Abd al-Wahid al-Maqdisi al-Hanbali [and others] take the latter in the monograph he compiled on the topic. Both apply." Sharh al-sudur p. 312. Ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyya in Kitab al-ruh (Madani ed. p. 18-19) also prefers the former meaning ("dying").
Imam Suyuti states in Sharh al-sudur bi sharh hal al-mawta wa al-qubur (p. 310):
There is disagreement as to the reward of recitation reaching to the dead. The vast majority of the Salaf as well as the Three Imams consider that it does reach them, while our Imam, al-Shafi`i, differs. His basis was the verse: wa an laysa li al-insani illa ma sa`a: "Man can have nothing but what he strives for" (53:39). However, the former replied to this objection in several ways:
(a) The verse is abrogated by Allah's saying: wa al-ladhina amanu wa ittaba`athum dhurriyyatuhum: And those who believe and whose families follow them in Faith, -- to them We shall join their families: nor shall We deprive them of the fruit of anything of their works: yet each individual is in pledge for his deeds (52:21). This verse enters the children into Paradise because of the righteousness of the parents.
(b) The verse "Man can have nothing but what he strives for" is specific to Ibrahim's and Musa's nations. As for this Community which has been granted mercy, then it has both what it strove for and what was striven for on its behalf. This is the saying of `Ikrima (Ibn `Abbas's freedman and the transmitter of his Tafsir. Bukhari included 139 of his narrations in his Sahih. He died in Madina in 104).
(c) What is meant by "man" in that verse is the disbeliever. As for the believer, then he has both what he strove for and what was striven for on his behalf. This is the saying of (the Tabi`i) al-Rabi` ibn Anas (d. 139).
(d) Man can have nothing but what he strives for according to divine justice (`adl); as for what comes through divine munificence (fadl), then it is permissible for him that Allah increase him in anything whatsoever. This is the saying of al-Husayn ibn al-Fadl (al-Bajali, one of Bayhaqi's (d. 458) shaykhs. Qurtubi often cites him in his Tafsir).
(e) The meaning of the verse is: "Man will have nothing counted against him except what he strove for."
They used as proof of the reward of recitation reaching to the dead, the analogy of all that is sent in the way of supplication (du`a), charity (sadaqa), fasting (sawm), pilgrimage (hajj), and manumission (`itq): since there is no difference in the transfer of reward whether it is for pilgrimage, charity, endowment (waqf), supplication, or recitation. They have also used the hadiths that will be mentioned, and even if these are weak, yet their collected import is that the donation of reward has a basis in the Law. Another proof they have used is the fact that the Muslims never ceased at any time in history to gather and recite (the Qur'an) for their dead without anyone objecting, and this constitutes consensus (ijma`).
All the above was mentioned by the hadith master (hafiz) Shams al-Din ibn `Abd al-Wahid al-Maqdisi al-Hanbali in a monograph he compiled on the topic. End of Suyuti's words.

It is narrated in Sunnan Baihaqi with "HASSAN CHAIN" that Ibn Umar (ra) considered it Mustahab to recite Beginning and ending Ayahs of Surah Baqarah at the grave after burying [Kitab ul Adhkaar, Page No. 278]
`Ata' ibn Abi Rabah said: I heard Ibn `Umar say: I heard the Prophet say: "When one of you dies do not tarry, but make haste and take him to his grave, and let someone read at his head the opening of Surat al-Baqara, and at his feet its closure when he lies in the grave." al-Tabarani narrates it in al-Mu`jam al-kabir, but Haythami said in Majma` al-zawa'id (3:44) that the latter's chain contains Yahya ibn `Abd Allah al-Dahhak al-Babalti who is weak. However, the hadith is confirmed by the practice of `Abd Allah ibn `Umar as narrated through sound chains (see below). al-Khallal also narrates the hadith in his al-Amr bi al-ma`ruf (p. 122 #239).
It is related that al-`Ala' ibn al-Lajlaj said to his children: "When you bury me, say as you place me in the side-opening (lahd) of the grave: Bismillah wa `ala millati rasulillah -- In the name of Allah and according to the way of Allah's Messenger -- then flatten the earth over me, and read at the head of my grave the beginning of Surat al-Baqara and its end, for I have seen that Ibn `Umar liked it." Narrated by Bayhaqi in al-Sunan al-Kubra (4:56), Ibn Qudama in al-Mughni (2:474, 2:567, 1994 ed. 2:355), al-Tabarani in al-Kabir, and Haythami said in Majma` al-zawa'id (3:44) that the latter's narrators were all declared trustworthy.
Abu Bakr al-Khallal (d. 311) in al-Amr bi al-ma`ruf (p. 121 #237) relates the above with the following wording: "flatten the earth over me, then read at the head of my grave the Opening of the Book, the beginning of Surat al-Baqara, and its end, for I have heard Ibn `Umar instruct it." Ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyya cites it in Kitab al-ruh (Madani ed. p. 17) from Khallal's narration in al-Jami` but without mention of the Fatiha.
وقد ذكر عن جماعة من السلف أنهم أوصوا أن يقرأ عند قبورهم وقت الدفن قال عبد الحق يروى أن عبد الله بن عمر أمر أن يقرأ عند قبره سورة البقرة وممن رأى ذلك المعلى بن عبد الرحمن وكان الامام أحمد ينكر ذلك أولا حيث لم يبلغه فيه أثر ثم رجع عن ذلك وقال الخلال في الجامع كتاب القراءة عند القبور اخبرنا العباس بن محمد الدورى حدثنا يحيى بن معين حدثنا مبشر الحلبى حدثني عبد الرحمن بن العلاء بن اللجلاج عن أبيه قال قال أبى إذا أنامت فضعنى في اللحد وقل بسم الله وعلى سنة رسول الله وسن على التراب سنا واقرأ عند رأسى بفاتحة البقرة فإنى سمعت عبد الله بن عمر يقول ذلك
قال عباس الدورى سألت أحمد بن حنبل قلت تحفظ في القراءة على القبر شيئا فقال لا وسألت يحيى ابن معين فحدثنى بهذا الحديث قال الخلال وأخبرني الحسن بن أحمد الوراق حدثنى على بن موسى الحداد وكان صدوقا قال كنت مع أحمد بن حنبل ومحمد بن قدامة الجوهرى في جنازة فلما دفن الميت جلس رجل ضرير يقرأ عند القبر فقال له أحمد يا هذا إن القراءة عند القبر بدعة فلما خرجنا من المقابر قال محمد بن قدامة لأحمد بن حنبل يا أبا عبد الله ما تقول في مبشر الحلبي قال ثقة قال كتبت عنه شيئا قال نعم فأخبرني مبشر عن عبد الرحمن بن العلاء اللجلاج عن أبيه أنه أوصى إذا دفن أن يقرأ عند رأسه بفاتحة البقرة وخاتمتها وقال سمعت ابن عمر يوصي بذلك فقال له أحمد فارجع وقل للرجل يقرأ
وقال الحسن بن الصباح الزعفراني سألت الشافعي عن القراءة عند القبر فقال لا بأس بها
Translation: It is narrated from a group of Islaaf that they advised to recite (Quran) on their graves at the time of burying them. Abdul Haq has narrated that "Ibn Umar (RA) ordered (others) to recite Surah Baqarah on his grave" A'la bin Abdur Rahman also holds the same opinion. Imam Ahmed (rah) did not agree to this in the beginning because proof had not reached him then, "however later he agreed" Ala’ bin Lajlaaj (Radhi Allaho anho) has narrated that his father advised that when he is to be buried you should recite بسم الله وعلى سنة رسول الله and then add dust, after this stand on the side and recite the beginning of Surah al Baqarah, because he heard Ibn Umar (RA) saying this. (Note: The Hadith is traced as Marfu i.e. from Prophet salallaho alaihi wasalam in Al-Kabir of Imam Tabrani, Imam Haythami called all its narrators to be Thiqa in Majma az Zawaid 3:44)...
Abbas Ad-Dori (rah) narrates that he asked Imam Ahmed bin Hanbal if there is any tradition about reciting (Quran) on the graves? (Imam Ahmed) said No! However when Yahya bin Moin (rah) was asked he narrated that he along with Imam Ahmed (rah) and Ibn Quduma (rah) took part in a funeral procession. After burial a blind person started to recite (Quran) on the Qabr, Imam Ahmed said: It is Bidah to recite (Quran) near the grave, however when we left the graveyard ibn Qudama (rah) asked Imam Ahmed (rah) what his stance was on Mubashar al Halbi (rah)? Imam Ahmed said that "HE IS THIQA" (Ibn Qudama) said: Have you taken his narrations? Imam Ahmed said "Yes" at this Ibn Qudama said: Mubashar narrated from Abdur Rahman bin Ala’ bin Lajlaj (RA) … (and he mentioned the same narration as mentioned above), hearing this "IMAM AHMED ASKED TO CALL THE BLIND MAN BACK FOR RECITING (ON THE GRAVE)"
References
►Ibn Qayyim in Kitab ar Ruh, Page Nos. 64-65
Shawkani in Tuhfat al-dhakirin (p. 229) cited al-Jazari's instruction in al-Hisn al-hasin: "Let one recite over the grave, after burial, the beginning of Surat al-Baqara and its end." This is based on Ibn `Umar's words narrated by Bayhaqi in his Sunan (4:56): "I like that it be read over the grave the beginning of Surat al-Baqara and its end." Shawkani comments: "Nawawi declared its chain fair (hassana isnadahu), and even if it is only Ibn `Umar's saying, such as this is not uttered on the basis of mere opinion. It is possible that because of what he learned of the benefit of such recitation generally speaking, he then deemed it desirable that it be read over the grave due to its merit, in the hope that the deceased benefit from its recitation."
بها وذكر الخلال عن الشعبي قال كانت الأنصار إذا مات لهم الميت اختلفوا إلى قبره يقرءون عنده القرآن قال وأخبرني أبو يحيى الناقد قال سمعت الحسن بن الجروى يقول مررت على قبر أخت لي فقرأت عندها تبارك لما يذكر فيها فجاءني رجل فقال إنى رأيت أختك في المنام تقول جزى الله أبا على خيرا فقد انتفعت بما قرأ أخبرني الحسن بن الهيثم قال سمعت أبا بكر بن الأطروش ابن بنت أبي نصر بن التمار يقول كان رجل يجيء إلى قبر أمه يوم الجمعة فيقرأ سورة يس فجاء في بعض أيامه فقرأ سورة يس ثم قال اللهم إن كنت قسمت لهذه السورة ثوابا فاجعله في أهل هذه المقابر فلما كان يوم الجمعة التي تليها جاءت امرأة فقالت أنت فلان ابن فلانة قال نعم قالت إن بنتا لي ماتت فرأيتها في النوم جالسة على شفير قبرها فقلت ما أجلسك ها هنا فقالت إن فلان ابن فلانة جاء إلى قبر أمه فقرأ سورة يس وجعل ثوابها لأهل المقابر فأصابنا من روح ذلك أو غفر لنا أو نحو ذلك
Translation: Hassan bin Jarvi (rah) has narrated that he recited Surah al-Mulk at the grave of his sister. A person came to him and said that he saw his sister in dream who said: May Allah give Jaza (to my brother) because his Qir’at has been of benefit to me. One person used to recite Surah Yasin at the grave of his mother every Friday.
Once he recited Surah Yasin and made a dua: O Allah If in your sight this Surah is a source of Thawaab to others then grant Thawaab to all those buried in this graveyard. Next Friday a woman came to him and asked: Are you son of so and so, at which he said Yes. She replied: One of my daughters has recently passed away, I saw her in dream that she is sitting at the corner of her grave, I asked why she was sitting there? She took your name and said that you had came to recite Surah Yasi after which you denoted Thawaab to all of those who are buried, out of this we received thawaab too.
Reference: Ibn Qayyim in Kitab ar Ruh page 17,18
علامہ ابن تیمیہ رحمہ اللہ کا ایک قول اس بارے میں علامہ قرطبی رحمہ اللہ نے اپنی کتاب التذکرۃ میں ذکر کیا ہے جس کا مفہوم ہے کہ
” مسلمین کی موت پہ ان کو مالی اور بدنی عبادات کا ثواب پہنچانا امام احمد رحمہ اللہ، امام ابو حنیفہ رحمہ اللہ کے نزدیک اور امام مالک رحمہ اللہ اور امام شافعی رحمہ اللہ کے کچھ اصحاب کے نزدیک جائز ہے“( کتاب التذکرۃ جلد 1 صفحہ 278)
Mohtram meri aap se aik guzaarish hai please Humien Sahi bukhari , Sahi Muslim Se Hadees Laadain , ya phr Tirmizi , abu daoood , ibne maaja se bilkul sahi hadeees dikhayein koi zaeef hadees nhn ... JazakaALlah .. In Hadeeson mein kahin bhi yeh nhn kaha gaya ke Huzoor S.A.W.W Nay Hazrat ibn-e-umar ko Aisa karnay ko kaha theek hai bhalay zaeef hadees ho Ibn Umar R.A ki per yeh unka zaati fail tha unho ne kahin bhi Huzoor S.A.W.W ka naam nhn liya aur agar Huzoor S.A.W.W Nay Yeh Batien kahi hoti toh baaki sahabi bhi kartay yeh kam aur Hazrat Umar Farooq R.A Jo Kay Walid Thay Ibn Umar R.A Kay WOh bhi zarur Quran Padhtay Qabrustan mein jaakay ya mayyat pe per aisi koi hadees nhn .. is se saaf zahir hota hai ke yeh ahaadees zaeef hai ya phr Hazrat ibn Umar Ka yeh zaati fail hai ... JazakaALlah Khair
 
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Wa'alaikumussalaam mere pyaare Mohsin bhai jan
subse pehle arz karun ke aapka post kisi thread mein eik
waqt baad dekha to khushi huwi aapka post yahan dekh kar
yahaan aap ne ibtida mein jo hadeeth peish kiya hai
uska urdu tarjuma share kar dengen to
aapka shukrguzar rahunga : )

aur aap ne yahaan apne dalaiyl mein ye saabit
karne ki bharpoor koshish ki hai ke ehl e hadeeth naami firqe ke
nazdeek bhi amal e eisaal e sawab az Quran khwaani durust hai
magar is tarah ke dalaaiyl peish nahin kiye ke RASOOLALLAH saww
ne farmaaya hai eisaal e sawab ke liye Quran khwaani jaaiyz hai
ya iska hukm farmaaya ya phir Sahaba r.a ne is per amal kiya

ya phir yeh muaamla youn hai ke aap ne angrezi zabaan mein sharing ki hai
aur mein angrezi mein kamzour hoon so aap mere liye eik kaam karen
Ibn e Taiymiya r.a ne kya kaha baqiya ne kya kaha is nuqte se door ho kar
apne is ISLAMI bhai ke liye RASOOLALLAH saww ke sahih ahadeeth se

"QURAN KHWAANI fout shuda bande ke eisaal e sawaab ke liye"

is nuqte per peish karen aapka shukrguzaar rahunga
aur haan ye tanziya post nahin balke dar haqeeqi taur per mera aap se mutaliba
aur aap se guzaarish hai is nuqte per sahih ahadeeth peish karne ki aur bilkul
behes tanziya lehje mein nahin plzz khush iqhlaaqi se theek hai bhai ??

@i love sahabah .
Chiraagh bro JazakaALlah Mera Bhi Bilkul Same hi mutalba hai Her Tanz se paak hai jo Hum Aik dusre ki islaah chahtay hain deen mein ..... @i love sahabah Brother Aap Se Meri Bhi yehi guzarish hai JazakaALlah
 
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